Haye Vs Klitschko (The real equation in this)

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ask Haye if he would agree to that, considering he will have to share his career high purse with slave masters Sauerland.

    Of course Haye wants Sauerland out of the equation before here even attempts to getting a deal done with the brothers. That's why we see him delaying things over and over and over again.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    just trust me on this. the wba will not strip haye
     
  3. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It won't come to that. Haye needs that belt to get payday against Klitschkos. He will do what they tell him to do. I would say they got him by the balls but talking about Haye that does not sound right.
     
  4. dvb

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    the klitschkos need Haye,more than Haye needs them?.

    Yet the klitschkos earn less tv revenue from thier own country than haye does from his own country.

    Haye can get on hbo ide bet but they cannot with out haye or adamek against them.

    Im sure haye would get fights made easier vs adamek,povetkin ect than klitschko seem to get made agiasnt top opponents.

    funny how the klits have many people ***** about them and thier contracts.

    but only the klits have bitched about Haye when it comes to making fights,no other haye opponent has moaned about him contracts wise.

    Haye managed to make the cruiser undisputed title fight.

    but the klitschko are yet to make it happen when haye and valuev have both been the most recent other titlists.
     
  5. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    The real reason Haye refuses to fight Klitschkos is because of fear!
     
  7. Saku

    Saku We Are All One Full Member

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    You owned dvb and he knows it but he will not admit it because love is blind :D
     
  8. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    first off when you have the klitschkos as your image your clearly biased.
    sure im "british",but im firstly a boxing fan who stays up till 4,5 in the moring every time there are fights on,so im not just some fanboy of only british fighters,i do not support fighters just for being british,i hated calzaghe,not a fan of del boy,dont like **** like rogan and fraudley or danny williams ect.


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    the klitschkos need Haye,more than Haye needs them?.
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    Who earns more than the other,Haye!.therefore they need him for the big pay day.

    Yet the klitschkos earn less tv revenue from thier own country than haye does from his own country.
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    the klitschko earn less money from germany than haye does from the uk,that is fact,thats why there trying to get a"50/50" from him,meaning they take his money,which is more than they get,and they give thier germany spilt,which is less than haye gets.


    Haye can get on hbo ide bet but they cannot with out haye or adamek against them.
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    ye,course he could you fool,people like fast hard punchers,not robot scared fighters!
    klits cant without him though!,ignore that part again ye!.lol. haha,martin rogan!,lol,thats prob vitalis next opponent,or he will face chisora after wlad has.lol.
    its big though aint it,german tv is nothing compared to it!.lol they dont even have ppv in germany!.

    Im sure haye would get fights made easier vs adamek,povetkin ect than klitschko seem to get made agiasnt top opponents.
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    people dont ***** in public about Haye having slave contracts,they do ***** about the klitschkos business dealings.fact.


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    Haye,valuev,briggs,im sure there are more(povetkin did ***** out cuz of atlas.)There not all lying,just you like to ignore it and deny it.

    but only the klits have bitched about Haye when it comes to making fights,no other haye opponent has moaned about him contracts wise.
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    kevin johnson is a bum who has a great defense but no attack vs anyone good!,why would haye want a klitschko victim!.
    when was he supposedly fighting them,show us a vid of haye saying he was facing johnson??.

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    he got up of the floor to win,forget that bit though ye?.did you want him to wait for someone else who you deemed good enough to get the belt for him to then face them for the belts?.
    ha,enzo had one early ko loss when he faced haye!.and barely been down either.

    its not relevant that a undisputed champ moves up and deserves his dues?



    tell me how many times the kltschkos have unified anything?.
    but the klitschko are yet to make it happen when haye and valuev have both been the most recent other titlists.
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    and a 3 fight rematch from the o so fair and confident klitschkos yeah?.
    you seem to know so much,you must be boente!.lol.or just some kid with no real idea of contracts,just talk from the klitschkos.what they say in public and what they hide in private negotiations are different.

    why would they not want public negotiations if they have nothing to hide??.
     
  9. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    This is gonna be fun

    Did I say anything about being British? Touchy are you? :lol: And yeah I'm biased, so what? I've made valid points and you have not.

    Haye earns more than K2? Did you read that in the Sun? :lol: You know there's more to a fighters income than TV numbers don't you? Haye can barely fill a 12k seat arena without ticket giveaways. K2 fills 50k+ soccer stadiums within hours of tickets going on sale. K2 has ongoing endorsement deals that yield substantial income also.

    You're pretty pround of UK having PPV aren't you? Good for you. Glad you enjoy shelling out money to watch your false hero stare at a petrified 38 year old, Audley Harrison for 2.5 rounds then watch him crumble with the first glancing shot to hit him. The twitter war they had was far more exciting :lol: Like I said, HBO isn't the only broadcaster. Wlad also has previosly stated he didn't want to do PPV fights, he wants as many people as possible to see the fights. That speaks more of a champion, unlike con-artist Haye.

    Good so you agree that Haye and Valuev have "problems" dealing with K2. Briggs you say? He signed the contract didn't he? He fought the fight didn't he? He went on camera on more than one occassion and said K2 treated him A+ and that the deal was easy. Povetkin pulled out because of his team most likely. So of the names you gave, that leaves Haye and Valuev; which you give no excuse for, but try to redirect your ignorance on me.

    When was Haye gonna fight Kevin Johnson? :lol: Here you go! It's on the scene. http://www.boxing*****.com/?m=show&id=15843 Btw, this is long before Vitali fought him. If you were such a hardcore boxing fan, you'd know that already.

    If Haye was so great, he would never have been on the floor against a past it Mormeck in the first place. Fine I give him credit for the win. Sorry but Enzo was a Frank Warren hypejob who face nobodies until Haye, he's been bounced off the canvas so many times it's not funny. BTW Haye was NOT undisputed! He never fought Cunningham. He doesn't deserve **** at HW based on brief CW accomplishments.

    Klitschko unified the IBF and WBO HW belts, since you asked. Before that, they attempted to unify with Valuev who I already established, didn't want the fight. Wlad also beat the real WBA title holder, Chagaev. Yes, the same Chagaev that Haye will likely do everything he can to avoid making his mandatory defense against.:lol:

    You're really gonna bring up the 3 fight contract with Haye and K2? You do know that Haye asked for it don't you? You do know that he went on TV every chance he could and said that to be considered the best, he had to beat both brothers, you saw that right? You do realize that 3 fights with the brothers would make him more money than he's ever seen? And you do know that instead of taking that deal, he agreed to a 3 fight deal with Sauerland which yielded a track meet with Valuev, a destruction of a past it old Ruiz and a 2 1/2 round staring contest against Harrison. People don't complain about Haye having slave contracts now, because he is Sauerlands ***** :lol: You talk about confidence, well if Haye was so confident in winning then it should be no problem. It's 3 easy fights for him and he totally unifies the HW division and he would undoubtedly be considered a great HW. That is what he wants isn't it? That's what he'd have you believe.

    Since you know little about business, let me inform you. A professional entity doesn't negotiate in public. Do you see Microsoft negotiating in public? Do you see other sports stars negotiating contracts in public? Will you see US/Russia negotiate a START treaty in public, no you won't. Business is done behind doors and are often confidential, and contracts are expected to be honored. This is something Haye/Booth don't seem to grasp yet.

    Wanna keep going, noob?
     
  10. kriszhao

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    :lol::good DVB is probably too busy wacking off to Hayes "Bookazine" hell be back with some inane rambling after.
     
  11. loughlan

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    :deal That's him told.
     
  12. dvb

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    dont worry darlin,i aint touchy,jus telling you how it is.
    honesty you know,no,i guess you dont really know that word.

    you admitting your biased is the only truthful thing youve probably ever said on here!.lol,theres not that much point arguing anything you say as your biased!.fool,haha,my godd you are stupid!!.

    im not guna waste my time bothering to argue against a biased arrogant idiot after this post.
    so think your self lucky buddy!.:lol:


    Fact is haye earns more than klitsckos do for his and thier own tv revenue in their own country.Facts is they are the reason the fights havent happened this time round.

    i dont care about fighters complete revenues!.lol.

    they are greedy and wont fight until they get some kind of steal somewhere in the contracts.

    that is why they have bitched out,despite idiots like you talkin sh*te about Haye ducking.

    klitschko are ducking haye,he has everything needed to beat them and they know it!.They dont know how they will beat him!.

    vitali was on american tv saying "he has power speed ect",and when asked how he would beat haye he said" he is to light for heavywight",lol so haye is light therfore fast and will therfore be quick and avoid big shots and not get knocked out!

    sure they got power,but they wont even be able to sit down and use it,they wont even be able to land any punches through being to slow and too scared of what they will get back.
    the only thing the klits got is power,being big and in shape.thats it.

    no i dont read a paper that accuses people of pissing and robbing dying and dead people.

    sure haye doesnt fill arenas :D!LOL,but recently he did exactly that agiasnt a nobody fraud in harrison and ruiz who isnt well known in uk,and agiasnt a nobody as you said enzo was.And agiasnt valuev in germany.

    man germans probably get paid to watch the klitschkos,never mind for free,im sure even they dont like em.



    wachting a nobody getting knocked out quick wasnt exciting for you?,
    what a shame,lol you love to watch the klits be slow and predictable and safe agiasnt nobodies,ha,wlad had to get told off to go and knock out fat eddie chambers!. you really enjoy klits dragging fights out and put everyone else to sleep!

    ha,dip****,i dont pay for ppv,i have an awesome stream website to go to for free.


    you enjoy watching powerful but scared boxers beat up fat nobodies and put everyone to sleep?.


    ye,you just believe everything wlad said,youle be safe in yourself believing he is the truthful great person and boxer.lol.

    A man with a black and white homo video calling some one out when there already in contract talks with that some one!.


    klitschkos are dodgy to do business with ,its public knowledge you idiot.
    http://www.boxing*****.com/?m=show&id=15843

    lol,that link doesnt even work!

    and if its written on boxing scene it must be true then ye?.,haha,you tw*t.LOL.
    i dont need to follow kevin johnson and shitmuchers like that,i dont live my whole life on forums like some saddos.
    i check em when really bored to find out news on boxers in training ect.


    enzo was a nodoby,but how else was haye going to get the belt!,and he did him in 3,easy work like it should have been.klitschkos would have taken it 12 rounds if enzo was a heavyweight!

    so tell me this smart guy,how are the klitschko, if they beat haye going to unify the division?,if they dont fight each other?.


    they will just retire and ***** out of settling whos the better one between em!.


    mormeck yet again had the title(1 of the major 3),you gotta fight the guy with the belt to win it dummy!.And haye went to his backyard and stopped them robbing him by knocking him out.Klitschkos barely leave Germany.

    he wasnt undisputed becuase he didnt hang around for the non major belts outside of the top 3 titles?.pfft. haye could barely make cruiser towards the end.if you get the top 3 it counts imo.thats why they want haye WBA title.

    thats not undisputed though is it,2 titles doesnt mean THE unified undisputed champion! hell,why dont they just fight each other then haye can beat the best one and save time!.


    ha,ye,he will try avoid a nobody like chageav to fight klitschkos if they get real with talkin sense and doing fair respecful negotations!.

    if he does fight chageav through force of klitschko making him fight out his saureland contract he will knock that bum out!.


    they didnt want it enough if they didnt make it happen with valuev.

    they got enough money,why they not take less or pay a bit more to unify the division if they want it that bad?.

    chageav is awful,the division is that poor that most of klitschkos opponents are awful,and hayes arent perfect,but how long has been in the division compared to them again!. and how well has he beaten them up,outboxed them and embaressed them.

    man,the klitschko embaress themselves with thier awful style and how long each fight goes on in such a boring way.


    the klitschkos ask for rematches,not haye,pfft,and now there doing it to chisora,what a joke!

    why would anyone ask to fight wlad,then him again,then vitali?.lol.

    3 fights agaisnt different boxers,not rematching the same people that he beat.


    dont worry he will unify.it will be easily done,the hardest part is geting the klitschko to man up and make it happen, if they wanted it so bad they would allow haye to keep his own uk ppv money already!



    ye,and you know loads becuase your bill gates himself yeah?pfft.

    lol,thats lame,clearly they have stuff to hide the klitschkos,if the fight doesnt get made this time,the reasons for it should be properly exposed,or do you not want proof of what really happens?.
    numbers dont need to be shown just what the true sticking point is,who wasnt willing to do what ect.

    klitschkos havent even talked in detail about the deal,just let a manger in boente talk about it even though he hasnt done any negotiaitons for years,he backed away from talking to booth!.he even said that on live tv.

    Haye talked specifically about why the fight didnt happen.

    the highly educated klitschkos only had"he bitchzed out" and "haye is a coward chicken" to say for why the fight wasnt made. :patsch



    sorry that i have a life and a job to go to loser!.

    noob means i have a life and dont live on a forum talking sh*T all the time!.

    and why the **** would any like these boring robots!,its a joke,tell me who they fought and beat convingly who was in thier prime, who was fast and or poweful,who was well respected in boxing world,who was even just in good shape and not a fat plodding brainless nobody!.

    you support heavyweights who cant even knockout people out quick enough,when their opponents fail to throw back and land anything from about the first round onwards,and still the bros lean back,jab everyone to death,and repeat the same combos over and over.

    you support boxers who dont fight to entertain,who fight scared.

    they fight people who are no threat to them what so ever,who are made perfect for not being able to beat the klitschkos,people like chisora and a past it as **** briggs whos fat with asthma!.haaaa!.


    ha,enjoy wlad fighting an experienced prime fast KO power boxer who is a real test in chisora.LOL!.see how he rakes in no fans and nobody watches his fight on a khan ppv undercard!.

    go re watch vitali boringly beating a past it fat asthma sufferer!

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  13. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Wow! I mean WOW. You lost any chance of having ANY credibility here. That was the most disorganized, misinformed, deluded, and just generally ******ed posts I've seen on ESB. This is British media and Hayemaker brainwashing at it's finest I think.

    You've proven yourself a card-carrying lifetime member Hayelord. Bravo kid! You can go back to your all-important, yet not impressive life you claim to have now.:rofl Or you can keep posting so the rest of us can come laugh at you some more. :yep