Haye vs prime Bruno

Nice job of pointing out that Bruno actually wasn't a bad fighter at all :good I maintain he'd steamroller this division right now, WALDO is tailor made for him.

You're wrong about the Lewis fight though, Lewis turned the fight around with a huge left hook when he was stunned....not out on his feet but he was stunned. Bruno went in for the kill and to be fair a big left hook from Lewis was almost certainly the last thing he was expecting - it was a great shot.

 

to my recollection, wlad was dominating both Purrity and Brewster till he ran out of gas.

pfff....why would lewis duck bruno? he stopped him cold far from his prime, u know this as a big lennox fan. he looks like an amateur when u compare him in the bruno fight to the manny steward Lennox. lewis had just as much power but was so much smoother with a wider variety of punches in his arsenal. Bruno couldn't beat a prime Lennox if he had 100 tries. the vitali statement is obviously a bait :yep

So he didn't whine after he got sparked out?!? that's your basis for picking Bruno.

i won't bite like some of the other wald lovers. top 6-10 guy today and could grab a belt for a moment against the right opponent. bruno wasn't a bad fighter. he was a top 10 contender but wasnt elite then and wouldn't be today either.

 

the point is some of the same posters bashing wlad about the "quality" of his opponents are touting Bruno as this underrated legend when in fact wlad's resume is far superior to Bruno's. a hint of British bias. solid guy but going past that is stretching it.

 

He ran out of gas against Purrity, he got smacked in the jaw against Brewster and his legs turned to jelly. It's happened in millions of other fights yet this was the exception to the rule - it wasn't the punch that ****ed him up, it was 'gas'

 

Yes he did, didn't he? Now who else did Lewis stop cold when far from his prime, I wonder :think

He got accused of ducking all over the place in the fight I'm referring to, yet a rematch with Bruno would have been a lot more called for, when you look at the circumstances. Why does Lewis get so much abuse for not rematching 'the unmentionable fight' and no abuse at all for not rematching Bruno, who he was also losing to on the cards. It's a mystery isn't it?

 

How is WALDO's resume better than Bruno's?

Please feel free to point out the fighters WALDO has faced that are better than the ones Bruno faced. I've just got to hear this....

 

Bruno would probably stop Haye. Haye's already been down a few times at cruiser and there is nothing "cruiser" about Bruno's power. He could crack and he took a better punch. His problem was that he didn't react well to taking punches.

 

don't ask me. i have no problem with lewis retiring without giving the rematch to vitali. he probably recognized it was time to hang it up. i respect that more than fighting past your best and going out like evander holyfield.

btw, '03 lennox ko's '93 lennox :hey

 

quality of wins not opponents faced. i don't put too much weight in getting sparked out by atgs

top 10 wlad wins imo: thompson, sultan, brewster, brock, byrd 2x, peter, mccline, mercer, barrett

give me bruno's top 10 wins and lets see how they stack up.

wlad 12-2, 10kos in world title fights, 10 successful defenses
bruno 1-4, 0kos in world title fights, 0 successul defenses

wlad handled the big stage a little better. however, lewis and 80's tyson are better than anyone wlad has faced though.

so ur right, bruno's quality of losses are far better than waldo's :yep

 

03 Lewis doesn't KO 93 Lewis, no way - not quick enough. 00 Lewis would, but in 03 he was slightly faded.

Respect to you for speaking the truth about the VITLAY rematch though, finally a reasonable Klit-ite :good

 

Someone else has already posted a very good break-down of Brunos resume on this very thread, all I can say is read it. World title fights mean little in this argument because, well just look at the list of bums WALDO has beaten in world title fights - do you honestly think any of them would have given Bruno any trouble? The only one that MIGHT have is Sanders, and I stress MIGHT. Bruno would never have lost to Purrity or Brewster in a million years.

Prime Bruno went 5 hard rounds with prime Tyson - I'm 100% convinced that prime WALDO would have been out of there inside a round.

 

The Bruno from the first Tyson fight, gave prime Mike trouble. He'd have given Haye a haymaker...

 

Lewis was doing far better against Vitlay than against Bruno too.

No matter what Klit fans say about that fight, the only way Lewis at that age and in that condition, could beat Vitlay was to do what he did.

Take 2 to land 1, and just bludgeon Vitlay. Vitlay had never had anyone do that to him, and even despite the cut, was out on his feet at the end of the sixth.

Bruno on the other hand, just got caught with a great shot, and finished by a guy who is a very very good finisher. (Still, Bruno would have run out of gas in the ninth as usual anyway....). I wanted Bruno to win that fight, was convinced that fight was showing Lewis up to be full of ****, until that left hook landed. Then I was like "Um, Ok, maybe he has got something after all....."

Anyway, any argument that puts Tony Thomson up as either
a) a good fighter on Wlads resume
or
b) better than Bruno was

is ****ing ridiculous. I watched Wlad v Thomson, and Thomson was ****ing woeful. Awful. Wlad wasn't much better.

Bruno would have had that Thomson out of there in the first 4 or 5 rounds. You don't stand with your gloves as earmuffs in front of Bruno and make it to the 11th.

Apparently you do against Wlad.

 

You're right. The 93 version of Lewis would have beat the 03 version, as wild and right hand happy as the 93 version was.

Unless the 03 version catches him like McCall did, 03 struggles.

the 00 version however was the best version of Lewis around. The little run of Golota, Grant, Tua was Lewis at his best IMO, and would have been a tough fight for anyone.

 

Bruno KO 5