Haye vs Toney

Haye actually has a very good resume for being 28 and only having had 21 fights.

 

In the cruiserweight division man. Give me a break.

 

Vitalis biggest wins Samuel Peter side are Herbie Hide (cruser), Danny Williams and Corrie Sanders :rofl

Haye could beat them 3 in 3 days.

 

OK and Hayes is better?

 

It can't be any worse by the time his career is finished, if he beats Barrett and one of the Klitschko sisters its already better.

 

LOL, ok. Clearly now Vitali has a better one.

 

How would a fight between these two turn out?

Well Hayes biggest assets are his punching power and his speed. Punching power is not effective against Toney, it's difficult to land good clean punches on the defensive master that Toney still is, and even if you do, Toney still got one of the best chins in boxing. Toney hasn't been knocked out or even been on the edge of being knocked out in 80 pro fights - many of these fights against better fighters than Haye, and also against some bigger punchers than Haye.
As for the speed, it's clear that Haye has the edge here over old Toney. I still doubt that the faster Haye could outwork an in shape Toney for 10 or 12 rds tho. Because Haye always had stamina issues, and he will also have them at HW, where he's even heavier and more muscular. He can not stop Toney, so will he be able to go 10 or 12 intensive rds with Toney at a fast pace? I highly doubt it. I just checked on boxrec, how many times did Haye have to fight more than 8 rds? Only 2 times... While Haye might outwork Toney for the first half of the fight, I think he will gas somewhere in the middle rounds - while Toney stays relaxed and will catch up in the middle-late rounds.

Toney is past his best, but he's not shot. He has something left. He proved that in his last fight. If he can get himself in decent shape again, let's say between 220 and 225 lbs (he was 226lbs in his last fight, so it's not impossible), I see Toney countering the **** out of Haye after Haye throws and misses his renowned 'Hayemakers'. Haye has terrible defense, he leaves himself open after throwing his punches, Toney will see it and capitalize on it. Believe me, Toneys precise right hand will find its mark. He will wear Haye down. Haye will be gassed by the 6th or 7th round, and since we all know that he has a shaky chin, it's not even impossible that Toney stops him in the late rds, after punishing him hard.

Let me put it like this, Toney stopping Haye is far more possible than Haye stopping Toney.

If the fat version of Toney from Rahman I shows up, I can see Haye winning a close decision.
If the ok version of Toney from Rahman II shows up, I have Toney winning by UD.
If Toney can lose a couple more pounds and shake off some ring rust, I can even see Toney winning the fight by late TKO.

 

co-sign...,haye will end up standing in with toney in the second half of the fight and gettin countered to death!