HAYE vs VALUEV lets be fair

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  1. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    i just think that whatever your opinion on the fight or the boxers that when the fights over whatever the result we give the winner the credit he deserves. for me it feels ike if haye wins instead of sayin "well done haye" we may get "he beat an overated big lump of a man" it also works the other way if valuev wins give him the credit he deserves and congratulate him , dont just say he beat a bulked up overated cruiserweight

    just my opinion that haye will win and wont get the credit a win like that would deserve
     
  2. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it would be a great win for Haye, as good as any win Vitali has had, he really has fought some dross
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats the thing though, people are expecting Haye to TKO Valuev, or to simply knock him out. It will not happend, sorry to break it down for all the brits.

    Haye will likely hit Valuev with some crunching overhand rights, but they won't do **** to Valuev.
     
  4. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All about the body my friend, if he can work effectively there he can do it
     
  5. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    And thats just the thing, Haye is not a certified combination puncher, neither does he go to the body enough.

    Haye by Decision.
     
  6. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    most of the time he doesn't need to.

    He hit mormeck with some savage body shots. The noise was disgusting
     
  7. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Haye looked in absolutely phenomenal shape, most ripped heavyweight I have ever seen.
     
  8. M.Alexander

    M.Alexander Tough Mofo Full Member

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    Valuev by decision. A lot of people buy the hype Haye built up.
     
  9. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    i dont know how anybody can think haye will ko or even tko valuev, thats just ******ed. the guys head is as big as haye himself.

    it really could go either way, but i see valuev either winning a boring hugfest type fight where he jab on the outside then clinches when haye get in, or he comes out more aggressive and koes haye.
     
  10. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    this is gonna look like Pac-DLH ....Haye TKO8

    he wont be able yo put em away but he'll land frequently enuff for his corner to throw in the towel
     
  11. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    I really hope Haye will do enough to stop the garbage giant but Valuev is one big and tough motherfu**** and he will use his weight to lean on Haye and drain his energy. Haye must have a really good plan if he want to get this one.
     
  12. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mike Weaver and Bruce Seldon were both bigger and perhaps more ripped, and history tells us this is not some beauty contest.
    Props to Haye for coming into shape though.
     
  13. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    For it to look like Pac - DLH, Haye would have had to be a volume puncher. He's not, that's just false.

    Hayes stamina is questionable and he can only put two punches together at best. He's more of a one- counterpunch artist.

    Pacquiao is a volume puncher who can put his punches together perfectly, and he's perfectly balanced all over the board, he can throw knockout shots with leverage on his front and back foot. Haye can't do that.

    That being said, the blueprint on how to beat Valuev has been set by Chagaev, who did it merely by jabbing and throwing straight left hands down the pipe. He did do it without much frequency aswell, so I am expecting Haye to take a page out of that book and repeat it tomorrow night.
     
  14. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    100% EXACT!

    jab, straight punch to the head and get out of trouble. rinse, repeat!