Haye vs Wlad or Vitali-which do you want to see?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by The Exile, Dec 15, 2009.


  1. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad, although not very entertaining, is very effective at what he does. He has the best jab and right hand in the division (which admittedly, isn't saying much but still..) and is very adept at making his opponent fight at his tempo and range.

    That said, Haye does have all the attributes to nullify Wlad's strengths and take advantage of his weaknesses BUT will Haye be able to successfully do this or will he get caught with jabs and right hands and end up like most of Wlad's other foes?

    Wlad isn't a slow, plodding Valuev. He's pretty nimble on his feet (though obviously not as fast as Haye) and has good handspeed for a heavy.

    I'd give Haye a solid chance of pulling the upset though. :bbb
     
  2. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh yeah, I don't dispute Wlad's efficiency at all. As boring as he is, he's managed to find a style that utilises his attributes and he has enjoyed considerable success with it since it's implementation so he deserves credit. That said, I just don't think Haye would allow Wlad to dictate the pace and jab him all night long. Haye is too fast, too skillful, too powerful and, most importantly, far too pugnacious in spirit to allow himself to be dominated by Wlad, IMO.

    It's such an interesting fight and I hope it's made instead of Haye-Vitali. I'm pretty sure that it won't be, though, unless Haye beats Vitali first.
     
  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd like him to beat Vitali first due to his age. Wlad will be the biggie.
     
  4. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What if it went tits-up against Vitali, though? Wlad is 'the man' and, as humongously happy as I'd be if Haye were to beat Vitali, deep-down I would still be thinking that he still hasn't proven himself as the best in the division. Vitali might even demand a rematch if Haye were to win:think. I honestly don't think Vitali is the easier option, but I do accept that I'm in the minority in thinking that. I do accept that he has looked very slow since his return and his CV since his return isn't exactly amazing and it's not exactly hard to look good against the likes of Peter, Gomez, Arreola & Johnson. H2H, I just think that Wlad matches up better with Haye's attributes than Vitali. I think Chambers could still put a spanner in the works as well. Imagine how huge a HW unification fight would be between a Brit and a Yank again!:shock::yep
     
  5. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really dont mind. I think Wladimir has become massively underrated, a lot of people seem to think Haye just has to turn up and at some point he'll connect and KO him, im not so sure.

    Both will be very interesting fights whatever happens.
     
  6. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know this is the UK forum and we should all be suitably biased towards our guy, but Haye lacks the chin to be able take either guys power and he would be beaten down and stopped by either.

    Vitali would win via KO inside 8
    Wlad would via a decision.

    Sorry to **** on the parade.

    Just remember the sight of him on his back from a shot as **** JM Mormeck at CW. He is now fighting the best and the dominant HW champions with significant power and size advantages over him

    The track running performance against Valuev made me realise this guy is a fraud. If he was a threat he would have engaged and threw more than 5 punches a round and knocked the puppet out, what a cop out.
     
  7. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In another thread you've just accused Haye of lacking power!!! You're a bit of a tit arent you?

    Cruiser and HW world champion, some fraud eh?
     
  8. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's flaming. Don't bite, mate:good.
     
  9. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha thank **** for that!
     
  10. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    I would like to know why a victory over Monte Barrett who was then destroyed in 2 rounds in his next fight against Solis.

    And then a victory over the alleged worst ever heavyweight, according to alot of people prior to the Haye victory over Valuev, makes Haye a virtual already winner over Wlad when Wlad is several levels above the two mentioned fighters.

    Haye does have a chance, but its a slim one imo going off recent results.
     
  11. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    :lol: