Haye vs Wlad - What would Roach say?

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  1. Dubstep

    Dubstep Active Member Full Member

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    Seen as Roach is the psychic of the month...what would he say?

    Speed kills? Win for Haye?
     
  2. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering Haye (allowing blind patriotism and the hope of a few gullible Hatton fans following his journey) had the following to say about the outcome of the Pacman fight:
    Basically he is saying (for the second time, the first being the PBF fight): a good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un

    Then I really think Roach doesn't gives a ****.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad is a quick fighter, has speed and defense. Haye's punches are wide, he lunges and is off balance.
     
  4. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Speed alone doesn't kill. In addition to speed, Pac had the following advantages over Hatton: He is the more talented boxer, he punches harder, he is a southpaw, has a much more disciplined lifestyle, has the better coach. Haye will have none of these advantages over Wlad.

    On tv, the Klits look slow, because they are very tall. Herbie Hide was supposed to outspeed Vitaly, Iggy was supposed to trouble Wlad with his speed. It remains to be seen if Haye's speed and movement will be effective against Wlad.
     
  5. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Haye is on the same level as Jeremy Williams was at his bets. Still won't be good enough though.
     
  6. ConcretePete

    ConcretePete Active Member Full Member

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    Haye does have good speed, but will always get tagged. Knocked down by Mormeck, Barrett and cut by Maccarinelli. Unless he jumps straight on Wlad and hurts him early, its hard seeing him win.
     
  7. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Wlad's not going to be weight drained or over-aggressive...so there goes most of Roach's strategy. :hat

    I'm just having fun, :think, considering Roach's track record he will very much approve of Haye's speed and power moving up considering Haye's condition, but I think Roach will have doubts about Haye as a complete offensive/defensive package.
    I think Roach is the perfect coach for Haye. Haye is good now but Roach could make him into a beast. :deal
     
  8. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've only heard Roach praise Wladimir in interviews... He's only had good things to say about his training and technique. They are also good friends.. No way Roach favors Haye.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm sure he will be asked as the fight gets close.
     
  10. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice comparison...Williams had better skills but Haye has a stronger punch.

    Too many people confuse **** talking with fighting ability. Haye is going down and is going down hard in this one.
     
  11. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Roach would say Haye's superior jab and defense will be the difference in the fight.
     
  12. Karapuz

    Karapuz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Roach has a right, difference in jab and defense wil make the fight, because

    Wlad's jab & defense >>> Haey's jab & defense
     
  13. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    he would probably take the fighter with the better Chin and power. Which is Wlad.
     
  15. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    That is debateable! Yeah, Klitschko is the natural HW. But Haye was a murderous puncher at Cruiserweight and has carried all his power up to heavyweight. He showed his power big time against Barrett.