Haye was never undisputed champ at cruiser

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  1. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    yes i know..i got your point..there's difference between people's opinion and facts, and i'm with you on this one if you seen my posts....But given haye as your sample have given others a wrong idea..some have even thought that this is haye-hate thread..
     
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  2. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are right. I should not have given Haye as an example. I did not want to discredit Haye by any means as he had remarkable accompishments as a cruiserweight.
     
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  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You make a fair argument and your point is well taken.

    However, there is such a date.

    It occurred when Larry Holmes picked up the IBF title at Heavyweight. The IBF recieved instant recognition.
     
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  4. KenDubbs

    KenDubbs New Member Full Member

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    I completely agree that Holmes picking up the IBF title was an instant source of recognition and regard for the IBF.

    But it wasn't the case that all of a sudden on the 9th November 1984 it was decided that to be an undisputed champion you have to hold the IBF title as well. It was still a sentiment that evolved over time and became a majority belief as the IBF increased in status.
     
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  5. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very good source, it sums it all up right there.

    It confirms what I said with the WBO since the beginning, It also confirms that if you vacate a major belt, you are not undisputed anymore.

    Before posting, please check this website out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undisputed_Champion first.

    This is also confirmed by the following 2 websites posted by tolindoy before:

    http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definitions/undisputed world champion

    http://www.123exp-sports.com/t/01981174174/
     
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  6. KenDubbs

    KenDubbs New Member Full Member

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    You bring up a wikipedia link like it's a highly valid source and whatever it states must be true.

    Well, since you grant so much faith and validity in what wikipedia says... two can play that game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions

    A list from the same source of undisputed boxing champions and who do they happen to list?? None other than David Haye!
     
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  7. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, I posted 3 different sources. They all define "unbdisputed" the same way.
     
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  8. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right, and after he gets KO'd what will you say? Lick away
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  9. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah.....Great comeback ***** :good

    :hi:
     
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