Haye went the Distance with Valuev, But Klitschko against Ibraghimov was so much wors

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by donizhere, Nov 21, 2009.


  1. donizhere

    donizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok, so It went the distance with Valuev who is such a Huge and awkward guy to fight

    But does everyone rememeber Wlad fighting Sultan Ibragimov which also went the Distance,

    There was boos in the audience wasnt there

    Now that fight was NO WAY better than Hayes and it was against a much smaller man in Ibraghimov
     
  2. am0kgonzo

    am0kgonzo Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad - Ibragimov was boring as ****, I don't think anybody would dispute that. But unlike Haye, Wlad didn't run his mouth about bringing excitement back to the division and destroying his opponent.

    He also didn't pull out of fights against the best at HW.
     
  3. jdroy1986

    jdroy1986 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll admit the fight was pretty boring but the Ref should've ruled a knockdown in that fight when Ibragimov flew into the ropes. I'm not making excuses for Wlad but Ibragimov is a tougher and much better fighter than Valuev. I think if either Klitschko would fight Valuev they would KO the beast from the east.
     
  4. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    I don't think you can really compare the two fights outside of the fact that neither one of them was in the least bit entertaining. Klitschko pretty much dominated Ibragimov from the opening bell to the closing, as reflected by the scores. Haye jogged around and pot-shotted the giant and didn't, in my eyes at least, win in a particularly convincing fashion. I'm not saying Haye's strategy was bad, he'd be foolish to stand in front of Valuev. What I 'am' saying is that there's a big difference between the two fights.
     
  5. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Wlad vs Ibragimov the most exciting fight?

    Nope. But you know what, Ibragimov was running the whole fight,
    and Wlad thew an average of 29 punches per round.

    Haye threw 11.9 punches per round against Valuev.

    So to recap that, in Wlad's fight against Ibragimov, a fight Haye lovers and Wlad haters love to reference, Wlad threw 243% MORE punches than Haye did in his last fight.
     
  6. kidgloves

    kidgloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad pawing/slapping Ibragimov's jab was disgraceful.
     
  7. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know how you Haye lovers hate to face the facts..but here they are again.

    29 punches per round for Wlad
    11.9 punches per round for Haye

    Wlad threw 243% more punches.
     
  8. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    im not gona say which one is worse cos they both sucked, HOWEVER, Haye rockin Valuev was easily more excitin than nethin that happened in Wlad-Ibragimov. the only reason i comment is because i see some dumb klit fans sayin 'and haye was callin the klits borin hes worse' :rofl
     
  9. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    i dont quote facts, i watched bith snooze fests and just because wlad threw 29 punches how many of those were jab slaps :huh 15? 20?
     
  10. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What are you trying to say? That Haye was more active against Valuev than Wlad against Ibragimov? Absolutely not.

    Against Ibragimov, Wlad thew 103 power punches (8.6/round), and 245 jabs (20.4/round).
     
  11. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    er no thats wat u were tryna say, i was pointin out that if jab slaps excite u then yeh its a great punch output, but if not BOTH FIGHTS WERE BORING AS EACH OTHER but i found haye valuev slightly more excitin becase.

    a - i support haye and it was an important fight.
    b - he rocked valuev and and that was a bigger action point than any in wlad
    ibragimov.
    If you thought wlad ibragimov was betta thats cool when fites r that bad its all objective, but dnt throw punch stats at me as some sort of proof
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    FACT
    Wlad-CHAMP-Chases Ibragimov
    Boring

    FACT
    Valeuv- CHAMP (sort of) CHASES HAYE
    more boring, because haye as a challenger was digraceful
     
  13. kidgloves

    kidgloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. No Dubztep. We are wrong. Cause the stats prove it.
    ****ing hilarious. Thats the whole point. Its entertainment. Not a maths test.
    ****ing jokers. Cheerleaders. Thats what they are.
     
  14. dubztep

    dubztep The Original Dub Full Member

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    I can understand people that dont like haye but straight up Hayeters, i jus dont understand :patsch
     
  15. kidgloves

    kidgloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seems like every boxer around here has there haters. Don't get it myself, although some of the Klits fans have started to make me dislike them slightly. Some gay overtones going on there as well with them brothers.
    I guess boxing attracts all types eh.