Haye "Wilder hit me with 16oz Gloves and I still felt the power"

its hard to tell how fast his hands are because everyone his faced have been incredibly slow

 

I just wanna see fury,wilder and stiverne battle it out

 

Watch the Haye/Wilder sparring, Haye made Wilder look like a drunk, easily beat him to the punch.

Vlad beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other, knocked him down with a jab. Vlad can't wait to fight Stiverne, or Wilder...............

 

Do people really think that Stiverne will fight Wilder the same way he fought Arreola? He knows he'll have to get small and go right in, he won't be counter punching and having his left hand low trying to jab in that fight, he'll be inside the whole fight.

 

Wilder has no chin nor does he have any defense, but Vlad knocks both Stiverne and Wilder out.................

 

i dont see the big deal, anyone here could smack haye with 16oz gloves and he'd feel it, for the actual higher weight boxers who post here u could stun him. lmk when wilder drops or ktfo out of haye then ill be impressed.

haye is a slippery eel anyway not gonna hit him flush often, where as stiverne is hardly elusive.

 

Fixed. :good

 

So many assumptions very little evidence....I know folks have video but I still believe the verdict has yet to be seen. Its crazy how so many experts here act as if they would bet the farm (farmboxers farm preferably) on the fact that Wilder's chin will shatter. I don't have the balls lol

 

I don't question Wilder's power - just every other quality that you'd expect from a top fighter.

 

Fair statement....a man with his physical attributes ie fast twich muscles, lenght etc etc is going to pack a punch even without proper technique applied. All the other traits are lacking bigtime....

 

Nobody knows for sure if he punches hard, any heavyweight can knock others out if they hit them clean. Wilder has not fought anybody that can take a punch, it's a simple thing to understand.

 

Sure he's fought nothing but cans but you mean to tell me you don't feel he has at the very least above average power at the division? Your post seems a bit strange in that you state "any" heavyweight can knock others out if they hit them clean....so your basically saying every heavyweight has the potential to be considered a big puncher...therefore negating any valid measure of a Heavyweights punching power.

 

Yes that's the point of matchmakers putting their guys against people who can't take a punch, that's why you have some fighters knock other fighters out clean but then struggle with guys who shrug the punches off. If Wilder knocks out Stiverne clean then yes he obviously punches hard. Stiverne punches hard and it shows because of his 3 knockdowns against Arreola. Wilder won't knock every fighter out in the future, because somebody will either go 12 rounds with him like nothing or he will be knocked out in the first round once he punches them with his telegraphed overhand right and they take it with a smile, press forward and knock him out cold. Stiverne might be the person to do that.

Once he gets knocked out he will go into a depression once all of his fans realize they've been duped, and all of his critics will say " Told you so ", Haymon and his team will leave him and he will go the way of Seth Mitchell.

 

The scenerio you put together is very plausible and without the kind of professional support Wlad received through out the years (training, diet, education etc etc) if in fact Wilder is starched he would most likely be left out to dry. Wlad had moments in his career that made me feel as if my 6 year old daughter was cut from a harder cloth than him though he developed nicely took his loses and vulnerbilites accepted the fact that he needed to improve, learn, adjust and evolve. Wilder does not have that support system no one really cares about American HW's so I doubt if he is sparked they will allot him the kind of people he needs in order to develop into the beast he could be. This **** goes deeper than boxing and this proably isnt the proper forum to discuss were this convo could go but in the attempt to keep on topic, yes I lean more towards Wilder finding some major gut checks coming soon as the comp stiffens up. :thumbsup

 

Complete lies as always. You post the same racial hate over and over. Post the fake judd letter again:roll::readthre::fy