Haye would be wise...

Absolutely they are....Wlad is leagues better. So I'm sure going 12 with Fury will be easy compared to surviving Wlad. Still I really would be suprised if it lasts more than 5 before Fury is shown his true level...ie way beneath Hayes. Mismatch all over this one.

 

Haye will win easy. All this about him having stamina issues is complete nonsense.

 

Based on recent opponents, no, he is not operating at world level. Chisora is a good fighter, but hasn't won a strap at world level. Fury? He just looks plain **** and chin is not much better. As for Audley,don't get me started on that.

He's got all the tools to make a name for himself at the top level, but seems to be content, fighting cans in the UK. A very different fighter from cruiserweight Haye, who went out and took care of business. Now he's happy to put on these domestic freak shows, because it generates public interest, big up the rivalry, throw in some trash talk, and the casuals will lap it up.

This is a joke fight, Haye wins easy, there is no danger, and Haye knows it too. The guy walks into to right hooks all night. Haye will land it, and take him out.

Cunningham knocking down Fury

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb7pR_-7W3w

Pagkic knock down (at 5m40 of the vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjMA2a9Tpc

Imagine what a Hayemaker from Haye will do to Fury and no doubt he will land it. Fury doesn't have Wlad's defensive ability. Fury just walks right in like a fool.

 

atsch you said that all Haye does is fight these meaningless fights against Brits... that's stupid! they're top ten fighters. they're not meaningless at all.

Fury has beaten Johnson, Cunningham and Chisora. he's a top Heavyweight. there's only a few that i'd favour over him.

Chisora beat Helenius clearly, gave Vitali his toughest test since Lewis, gave Fury a tough fight even though he was out of shape, and beat ***ton when he was on top of his game...

which Heavy apart from the Klits, Haye and Povetkin have proven more than these two? i'll tell you shall i... no one!

who mentioned Audley? that was a money fight that meant absolutely nothing.

you also said that Haye wasn't world class. you never said anything about him being out for a long time. you just said he wasn't world class... which is Bollocks! he very much is. :deal

 

Neven Pajkic, Steve Cunningham and a few others disagree

 

he has had some stamina issues, vs Chisora he was huffing and blowing by round 3, though that might have been due to the fact he threw a lot more punches against Chisora than he usualyy does in his fights, against Wlad he was also tired by the 7th round, also, remember the Thompson fight? how he had no strength left after 3 rounds?

but I agree, he will beat the clumsy oak tree Fury with ease

 

Since when was Cunningham ever a top heavyweight?? he was a decent cruiserweight in a sparse division. When has Johnson ever been that good? Whose he even beaten?? looked a chump aganst Vitali, looked a bigger chump against Fury. Chisora beat helenius, but lets be honest now, Helenius was pure hype! He is a limited slugger and achieved nothing. If you are trying to tout these opponents as world class heavyweights, then you clearly know jack **** about boxing.

 

good assessment overall.
but why would you be worried a big mouth fraud like david haye will be exposed again? and for the record, i think fury will win a decision

 

I hope you're right, I can't stand that muth********. :-(

 

whether you view them both as world class or not, the fact is that both are proven top 10 in todays climate. no one can deny that. they're better than the vast majority out there.

Cunningham beat Adamek in their fight but didn't get the decision. that's a much better win than most guys have.

i'm not saying that Johnson is great or anything, but he'd give lower level fighters a tough fight. you have to remember that Fury beat him as an up and comer, not when being world champ. it's a good win when you look at it with that point of view.

Helenius had beat some former champs by KO, he was one of the top 5 guys. don't pretend he wasn't.
who did you have above him in the rankings at the time? :think who was more proven than him?

when did Helenius become a slugger???? he keeps his opponents at range and fights long. calling him a slugger exposes YOU as knowing nothing about boxing.

so, like i said before, they're world class in this climate whether you like it or not. they're more proven, and they're better fighters. :deal

 

Good counter.

Haye & Fury are top HWs so this is more than just a Brit domestic fight. I agree w/some here - and posted something similar about week+ ago - that the longer this fight goes, the more it favors Fury.
Haye s/be favored but don't think he's a prohibitive fav.

 

Haye is without a shadow of a doubt a top Heavy. it's just his inactivity that blinds some people.

like i said in my above post, Fury and Chisora may not be every ones cup of tea, but they can't be denied. they're far more proven then most.

this IS a world class fight between Fury and Haye, it's going to make news around the world. even the people on here claiming it to be bogus wouldn't miss it for the world. they're looking forward to it. they're just bitter that the Brits are making the headlines again, not the Americans. they just need to chill with that ****. a great fight is a great fight regardless of where it takes place or where they come from.

yep, i agree. i made a post about it in another thread. this is why i can't split them.
Haye isn't just going to walk through him with ease. he'll need to work hard for it. Fury will be ready.

and if Fury does what he claims he's going to do, which is tuck up nice and tight and walk Haye down to get inside, i may just give him the edge.
Haye's stamina won't be what it should be with him being out so long.

either way, it's going to be great build up and a great fight. the emotions on the night should be electric.

 

Haye isn't going to have as easy a time as some suspect, he'll have to take some shots to get inside on the bigger man, and is he willing to do that? I guess we'll see, but I expect this to be pretty competitive, but I favor Haye.

 

If it goes past 6 rounds it's fury all day long. Plus fury's work rate is very good