I did..I give Haye his props for beating Valuv... Good job Mr. Haye:good Now as far as the title of this thread.."Haye beating a Klitschko" I still say in the 2 HW fights I have seen Haye Barrett and Haye Valuev, I havent seen anything that would change my mind that Haye cannot beat a Klitschko:bbb Both Klitschkos are leauges above both valuev and Barrett and to say haye will beat the brothers based on beating guy in the CW division and 2 fights at HW is over reaching IMO
Haye will get inside Wlads head so bad. He has the speed and explosiveness to find that chin. Wlad has said himself he aint a fighter, Haye will relish this bout and that's the difference. Vitali is way past prime and Haye would make him look stupid at this stage
1)i don't think haye has the ability to get inside wlad. people ALWAYS say they can rush him. once in a while someone tries and it doesn't work. wlad is way too good at what he does. if he rushes, he'll win the first round and only the first round 2)vitali is past prime but NO ONE makes him look stupid. I say haye wins 4 of the first 6 before vit finds his rhythm and wears him down by 10
I said get inside his head not get inside. Both the klit brothers are overrated sorry, just an opinion. neither of them are master boxers and speed will end both of them
hehe, yeah i wasn't very clear with my response. i did see get inside his head and yet i commented on getting in physically. honest, i think wlad sees haye as a joker. all the games haye played took away ALL mystique and intimidation he might have had. true or not, he looks like a chicken **** to a lot of people
John Ruiz vs Haye would be a good fight , I would pick Ruiz to win by KO. Haye just isn't that good. Wlad would knock out Haye inside the distance, he would be more aggressive than usual due to the disrespect that Haye has displayed . Probably a sweeping left hook catches Haye flush causing him to fall face first on the canvas out cold. Vitaly on the other hand would brutalize Haye from the outset , causing him to squeal like a little girl and tripping over himself to escape the ring ... to no avail as Vitaly would catch him and pounds him flat ... Haye collapses twitching ... he never shows his face in public again.
Especially Wlad:yep I can tell you...it will take a lot for Haye to get either brother back to the table. as they say, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me They dont trust 1 word Haye or Booth says... and you cant really blame them due to the past talks and fights:deal...I mean no fights:yep
this is what i'm thinking (of course you KNOW chef :good). if it were me, i'd think "ok, this ****er dicked around and used all the hype talking to me and my brother to angle his way to a match with another titlest. fair enough but he obviously doesn't want to fight so **** him"
A unification bout, millions of dollars, worldwide exposure and a legacy-defining victory is 'a lot' in my book. But that's just me. Ho hum.
That is exactly how they feel. They think that was the plan ...use the brothers to get his name out there and then leave...they are convinced that as soon as the Valuev Chagaev fight was cancelled, the plan became to back out of Wlad fight....bull**** with vitali as a back up, but go after Valuev as that was an easier fight. kinda make sense when you sit back and look at the timing
Haye is trash , a punk . He ran from Valuez all night really a shameful performance . If I was a British boxing fan I would be embarrassed.
they have a reason to be worried about Haye... now add Don King to that..... there would be a ton to over come for the fight to happen. I think we can all agree to that no matter who you are a fan of:good
it does and it was a smart plan. valuev was lower risk by far and he had hyped it soooo much by that point that for many, it still seemed like a major achievment. a former cruiser beating the biggest heavy ever? on paper it looks great and he can now claim to be "heavyweight champion". it all works for haye but real fans know it means nothing until he fights a klit