I don't care about the past negotiations or whatever. It's irrelevant. However, there are more accusations about the Klitschko's than any other fighters or promoters I know about. If you want to take their side, that's fine, but you should understand that they, more than any other fighter or promoter today, are being accused of unfair deals. People from Lewis, Tua, Valuev, Rahman, Toney or even Adamek himself, have all accused the Klitschko's of being unfair in negotiations. Does it mean that Haye is telling the truth about their bull****? No, it doesn't. However, it could be a reason. Logically, when you get so many fighters accusing them of being unfair and then the demand for private negotiations, which are unheard of in boxing, then you can work out something is suspicious.
No. And before anyone starts thinking I am making excuses for Haye, I am not. He has pissed me off and lost a fan in me with his bull**** and his crap level of activity. Fighting Harrison was the final nail in the coffin for me. A total disgrace. However, the contract deemed "slave" was nothing to do with having to fight Vitali, it was this... He got ZERO gate revenue, ZERO foreign TV money and his purse was to be made up from UK PPV sales. If he lost he then had to fight a brother on THEIR promotional team again with no gate revenue and if he won that he had to then fight one of them again, also on their promotion. It was an absolute disgrace of a contract. That said, I don't believe the recent shite was anything to do with that, it was just Haye looking for easy pay days.
Plus, people have to be fair and understand that he actually accepted that deal. A terrible disgraceful offer but he accepted. Those who think he never wanted the fight should question their opinion considering he did accept that. The only reason he pulled out was because Setanta who would be the only ones paying him, went broke. So he would have had a three fight deal where he could be a unified champion and still get absolutely nothing. When the negotiations with Vitali came along, he said he and Vitali shook hands and then when a written contract arrived, it was nothing like the one they agreed upon. Knowing how many fighters have accused the Klitschko's of similar things, I genuinely think that is true. But, like I said, the past is the past. I don't agree with some things that the Klitschko camp have done and I don't agree with some things Haye has done. If the fight gets made, I don't care about the past.
:good A stupid liar. Nothing else. Everyone can see the truth. Wlad never acts like such liar Haye. Wlad is a man of honour, so he wants to fight Chisora because he had to postponed the fight. And Wlad will be ready on 2the of jule. 5 weeks trainingscamp are enough for Wlad, no problem here.
What lies has Haye told? Any specific examples where he has definitely been caught out? I know he said he'd never fight Harrison but I get the impression that was Sauerland wanting a big fight for them to make some money on. Even after the fight was signed, Haye said he didn't want it. So any specific examples of blatant lies? And Wlad lied when he said he'd fight Haye anywhere. We now know that if Haye doesn't accept to fight in Germany, the fight will never happen. A blatant lie from Wlad.
wlad also said there were no negotiations taking place either the last time. Booth said it before he said that and people said booth was lying when he obviously wasnt
How about the "I bet on myself in round 3 incident?" The "I don't care about the money, I'm doing this for Ali, Robinson..." bull, while history has shown it's only about the money. The "Back injury that was really Setanta going under" The constant changing on "No I want to fight Vitali first, no I want to fight Wlad first" And there were more and more... These are from the top of my head.
Wlad would fight Haye in the UK and USA. But in the UK Haye has to take the financial risk, and Haye does not want it. Just simple. Wlad never lied. He is a man of honour and a great longreigning Champion.
The back injury was probably a lie, yes. That's the only one of those I think is a genuine lie though. Who cares about the betting? Because you think he's in it for money, doesn't mean he is. He's switched from Wlad to Vitali but they have switched too. Any more lies? I'll give you the back injury but anyone who criticizes him for pulling out of that fight is a moron.
That's just not true. From Boente himself: ""I can tell you unequivocally that we are not even considering Las Vegas as being among the cities where Wladimir Klitschko can fight Haye. Moreover, our plans do not include carrying the fight to America" So absolutely not Vegas, despite saying "anywhere" and not America as a whole, despite saying "anywhere"? A blatant lie. Just admit it.
The betting thing is not about the money... It's about the LIE on the bet! First he tells everyone who wants (or doesn't want) to hear it before and after the fight he's betting on himself (and told his friends and family to do the same, on other fights also), and when the BBBofC states it's illegal and suddely he never did such a thing. Or he lied to every interviewer and tv station about it, or he lied to the BBBofC. The money thing is clear also... There were constantly problems about the percentages of the cut if it isn't about the money, you don't ask for the total UK PVV money if you get a 50/50 cut. He lied about only facing the best opponents as a HW, and not bums like the brothers did. And the switching opponents isn't just "switching". He actually told in public, he wanted to fight Vitali first when Wlad was available and Vitali wasn't... next time he told he never wanted to fight Vitali (he just did last week) and the next week he totally changed his mind (not for the first time). Enough lies to chose from... There's an actual timeline about all this posted a while ago.