Hayes chances

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ginger warrior, Apr 29, 2013.


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  1. ginger warrior

    ginger warrior Guest

    Who wins

    Haye v povetkin

    Haye v pulev

    For me they anything other than easy fights
    I like david and he has a tonne of ability but careful matchmaking means he has never beaten a heavyweight as good as these two

    Davids speed and finishing are world class but a lack of stamina and a tendancy(heavyweight division only)to drift through rounds,taking chances only when necessary mean he is going to be tested by a rough heavy with good workrate and chin

    If they were to happen tomorrow i would fancy david to beat pulev on points by hitting and moving and not engaging in toe to toe(maybe a late breakdown)

    But for me povetkin is 50 50 fight at the moment depending on povetkins next performance

    And before everyone says how good he is,i agree at cruiser david was top class but at heavyweight he has only looked devestating in spells and wins over monte barrett,john ruiz,audley harrison and a lacklustre win over nikolai valuev dont add up to much at all
     
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  2. hit me HARDER

    hit me HARDER Guest

    I still think he wins both.
     
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  3. ginger warrior

    ginger warrior Guest

    Forgot to put in chisora,his best performance as a heavyweight admittedly

    But for a champion elect surely he should be putting del boy (game but limited) away
     
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  4. UP93

    UP93 Active Member Full Member

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    Vitali didn't

    Anyway, at this point Haye beats anyone not named Wlad, and he'd ruin Povetkin. Pulev and the rest are too unproven but don't see any of them really testing Haye.
     
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  5. paulko

    paulko Active Member Full Member

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    Wins both by ko
     
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  6. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he did put Chisora away fairly easily after a year out f the ring. Chisora has a good chin and he got fattened by Haye.

    I see him beating Pulev with ****in ease aswell. Could see a fit motivated Povetkin causing him 1 or 2 problems but Haye still beats him. For me Haye is the best Heavyweight outside of the Klits.
     
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  7. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    His HW performances, bar Wlad, have all been decent. Slug-fest with Monte Barrett, good win over Valuev, gave John Ruiz a hiding, splattered Harrison as soon as he felt like it, and hammered Chisora to pieces.

    Barrett, Ruiz and Valuev would have beaten Chisora. So I don't how anything other than sentimentality can see him as the best on Haye's ledger.

    The only outright bad Haye performance, IMO, is against Wlad. He just didn't have the size, style or chin to risk coming inside against such an efficient, accurate and powerful puncher.

    I'd pick Haye to batter Povetkin and Pulev.
     
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  8. ginger warrior

    ginger warrior Guest

    Im sorry but based on what

    Pulev and povetkin are genuine threats to haye

    Haye is exciting and leaves a lasting impression with his world class finishing but im not sure he is that much better than everyone bar the klitschkos which seems to be the considered opinion

    Hope im wrong as at the moment he is by far our best chance of success
    2 years and im hoping fury and price bring their different qualitys to the top of the division
     
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  9. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id pick Haye to win both fights. Not easy fights but they are ones he is more than able to win.
     
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  10. ginger warrior

    ginger warrior Guest

    Chisora isnt the best name on his resume at heavy its for me his best performance he looked lean,sharp and heavy handed when he is in the mood he is fantastic
     
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  11. ginger warrior

    ginger warrior Guest

    Haye
    Barrett
    Valuev
    Ruiz
    Harrison
    Chisora

    Povetkin
    Rahman
    Huck
    Chageav
    Chambers
    Byrd
    Donald

    Pulev
    Ustinov
    Dimitrenko
    Sprott
    Skelton
    Walker

    Considering David has had more fights i think his record isn't that much hotter than the others bearing in mind pulev has only just started out at championship level
     
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  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Haye would execute Povetkin.

    The last five years of his career have been car crash stuff.... he looked a really good prospect at one point but everything seems to have left him. Footwork, defence, power... everything.

    If you're stationary with little defence against Haye you're going over, and early.

    Haye TKO2.

    Pulev.... a much better fighter for me. Can't really say I've seen enough of him against speedy, powerful fighters, so I'd have to reserve judgement on it for now.
     
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  13. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Pulev has one very good attribute that always causes Haye problems: a jab. It would likely be tactical early on until Haye found the angles he needs to land his left hook or his right hand.
     
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  14. ginger warrior

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    Pulev has a very good jab and is freakishly strong he has taken on much bigger men and beat them down
    He lacks real experience in the pros but was a good amateur

    I think David starts favourite but fury should stay well away from pulev a man who could negate tysons strengths
     
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  15. I Shot JR

    I Shot JR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin isn't all that to be honest- Huck gave him a tough fight so Haye would likely beat him early doors.

    Pulev is a totally different proposition- he has a decent jab, can punch and from what I've seen has a decent chin. And he has a lovely girlfriend. Haye would have probably edge a points decision via his work rate but I can't see many lining up to fight Pulev to be honest.
     
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