Haye's game plan versus Wlad: This is what I think . . .

Yeah, that's all well and good Shaun, but, what's Haye gonna do if the ring is all white?

 

But on a more serious note, it definitely sounds like a better plan than going all out for an early KO. I think Haye will opt for ambush tactics - similar to the way Pascal dealt with Dawson. Winning a 12 round decision isn't completely out of the question.

 

pizza face hahahahahahahahahaha

 

he used to the pink ones

 

Here's my prediction: Low Blows. I honestly think Hayes trainer want him to throw several low blows in the early rounds to both completely infuriate, and incapacitate Wladimir. They know Wlad will murder Haye with the jab and so the only chance is to get Wlad to start lowering his guard to protect something other than his chin. Also, low blows drain the hell out of a fighter, and if Haye can get away with some serious ball crushers, regardless of points lost, he will do it just to stay in the fight until the end or to open up the Wlad defense. I'm also fairly sure that he has been coached a lot on throwing straight right hands straight in at close range. Only problem with that is that Haye gets more power from his roundhouse punches than his straight ones, so I don't see that kind of punch really hurting Wlad.

Now, the only problem with pissing off Wlad, is PISSING OFF WLAD. If Haye manages to awaken the pre-Corrie Sanders Wlad up, he is a dead man. Wlad threw punches with mean intentions back then and was not built as densely as he is now. That Wlad mindset with this Wlad body equals a Wlad nobody survives against.

 

Sensible post OP. I think Wlad is rightly favourite, for the reasons you picked up on, but Haye is a very dangerous opponent. I don't like David Haye and I've joked about pizza face etc, but if I was a hardcore Klitschko fan, I'd lay off it a bit, because a lot of them could look very, very stupid with some of the things they are saying and how they are completely righting Haye off.

 

I think you've nailed it pretty much spot on Shaunster. I feel that the plan is purely to negate the jab (if possible) and see if Wlad is frustrated, then see if Haye can explode with a combination if that scenario unfolds.

Although Haye talks about several gameplans, I can't see 'em though, I honestly think the "try to negate, try to negate, try to negate....explode" thing is about all Haye can do.

 

I think Haye will try to stay outside Wlad's range, from time to time jump inside and unload short powerful combination and quickly jump out. It is basically what he did against Valuev. This gameplan might work better against Klitschko than against Valuev, since Haye was able to hit Valuev with his hardest punches, and Wlad isn't nearly as durable as Nico. The downside is, that David will have to move a lot faster, because Wlad himself moves fast and cuts off the ring a lot better than Valuev, and that brings the question if his stamina is good enough to constantly move and stay outside Wlad's reach. That's I think more or less gameplan Haye will apply, assuming Wlad fights like he always does, which I think he will.

 

What would you do if you had to fight Wlad?

 

spot on shaun.i dont write haye off as a no hoper i see it as a 70/30 fight in wlads favour..but to make wlad miss hes still not going to land anything himself and is going to lose the rounds..this is prob why many see haye losing a ud.i on the other hand think when haye starts to get frustrated he cant land on wlad hell start taking risks then get taken out between 8-10.just my opinion tho..ive always thought this fight was going to be a tactical one not one going all guns blazing with the other jabbing the head of the him..but as u quite rightly said its hw boxing and one punch changes it all..

 

Anyone ever wonder what if Wlad all out attacks Haye from the first bell?

 

Haye isn't going to blast Wlad out to early. I see Haye scoring a knockdown in the middle rounds and things getting interesting from then on. The first three rounds will be boring as hell with both fighting cautiously.

I don't see Haye looking for a pts victory, a fight that goes to the cards in Germany is asking for robbery, although a Haye win on pts is unlikely.

Haye will probably ambush and look for openings. If Haye has Wlad hurt I think he'll try to finish him off and give everything he has in the tank.

 

I think clearly you don't know **** all about how Wladimir handles people who try to neuter his jab.

I recommend you watch Wladimir versus Ibragimov.