Haye's lack of technical skill and game plan were horrible

Their entire game plan was horrible. I think the success of Haye - Valuev and then Groves vs. DeGale made them a bit complacent. They thought they'd get away with it for a 3rd time. Quite delusional.

 

^^^^^ Agree with this. A question I have to anyone who may know, where does the reputation of Adam Booth as a master strategist come from? I'm curious as, as mentioned above, all these amazing gameplans seem virtually identical.
Is it all just based on having a talented fighter (yes Haye still is) and a lot of smoke and mirrors or is there a lot more to back it up?

 

Haye looks to be lacking technique in his punches. He swings wildly at times and becomes off-balance. Was quite surprised Wlad didn't take full advantage of his wildness.

I cant remember seen one combination, he was resorting to single shots. Does he really think Wlad will be knocked out by one 'hayemaker'? He landed two shots but Wlad never really seemed that hurt. He took them quite well actually.

 

The lack of jabs was startling, really. Haye was landing them when he bothered to use them, Haye literally hasn't grasped that it's the jabs that set up the "haymakers" against truly elite opponents.

 

Haye definitely needs to tune up his fundamentals if he wishes to carry on, it is most probably too late for that though

 

they played on Hayes best cards(speed, straight right, counter punching). it wasnt enough.

He did everything he could, but it wasnt enough. Wlad is just better fighter and an ATG.

 

I've said all along that Haye is nothing but a "Haymaker Throwing Amatuer".


Why don't you people listen to me? Are you blinded by all the false bravados & muscles this clown displays?

:think

 

Hayes technical skills are fine, it was the gameplan, more jabs and lead lefts would of opened alot more possibities but he fell into the old fools gold trap of spending 12 rounds swinging wildly for a 1 punch knock out.

 

Thats another thing I wanted to mention.

Klitschko fan or not...You should think twice about ever saying again that Wlad is an ATG.

He is not...or else he would have knocked Hayes freakin head off. End of story.

 

Hayes problem was that klit was simply moving back avoiding his flurries and haye was following that up with nothing and jumping back outa range. Haye needed to stay in range and be willing to throw a second batch of shots. Having said that you have to give klit credit for making himself hard to land on. Haye was banking on being able to rock wlad at some point, he landed a few decent shots but not enough. Klit basically outboxed haye.

 

Idk. The body language in the corner during and after the fight was very much "Yes, this is going as planned."

I'm waiting for their next move. It seemed like all along their goal was to just get through 12 rounds without getting hurt/made to look ridiculous. Didn't seem to have winning in mind at any point.

With the amount of money Haye made in that fight (HUGE for anyone not named Manny or Floyd), it makes sense to go through with it and try to survive, injury be damned. Maybe they were hoping to make it closer so they could get another huge payday vs Vitali. But that performance was so godawful that even with the injury I don't see how anyone can expect Vitali to fight him...

 

Granted your entire gameplan can not be to land one lucky hayemaker shot, Haye normally doesn't fight like this but because Wlad is so tall, he has to change it up. Also, Haye has no inside game(neither does Wlad for that matter) hence the inside shenanigans by both fighters. Wlad executed his gameplan like he always does, safely box from the outside with the long jab, I think his team knows that Wlad has a suspect chin which is why he won't commit more in fights, how can anyone put Wlad on a top 10 p4p list when the man doesn't take risks and has no inside game, it can't be his resume, how many HOF fighters has he beaten? I don't want to take away from his victory but a man with that many flaws in his game it says a lot about the heavyweight division.

 

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