You wrote, dont use fighters and titles to beef up a record, so I gave you ratings as well and that dosent qualify . So a fighter which was highly rated, owned a title and had a couple of names on their record cant be rated for those reasons :huh. Who they fought and when, I listed above. I dont rate Enzo, but what I have said is, he was considered Hayes biggest threat, no more or less, and Haye dealt with it
thats better. the fight was legit to a point, but the truth was enzo had a poor resume and only 'desreved' the fight because of the demand in the UK before haye went up to heavy. forget ratings, keep it simple.
everybody knows the answer to that. you call out a klitschko, you fight them. haye only started getting **** on boxing boards because he cracked a floyd. but because he doesn't have floyd's skills it just didn't reverberate so far.
But the Klits are also older than 36... isn't that what you are all bitching about here? that Haye doesn't fight prime fighters? So by that argument the only fights worth a wank are Arreola, Solis or maybe you'd like him to fight Derek Chisora? he's young
Most fighters in the higher weight classes are considered prime when they hit their 30s. Heavyweights usually peak late. Also All those fights were within 20 fights for the Haymaker. Go through the first 20 fights of most boxers and you will see bums with crap records. So what's odd about Haye's resume?? When every other fighter out there feasted on bums for 20 or more fights. Instead why not look at what he's achieved so far, 2 weight world champ. That's gotta count for something? If after Audley Haye doesn't go and clean up, then that's the time to lay the smackdown, but for now I don't see what is the problem.
At CW Wlod, Cunningham or maybe even Huck. But ok I don't really have any problem with his CW career, I just think he didn't really clean the division as is usually claimed by his fans. The problem is HW, obviously he should have fought one of the Klitschkos. Or at least Chagaev, Povetkin, Adamek, Chambers, Solis, Arreola etc instead of the old Ruiz and Harrisson.
Enzos resume wasnt outstanding, and never claimed it to be, but, he had been involved in more world title fight than Haye (which is experience), was highly rated, had fought more fights than Haye, and beaten world rated fighters in Braithwaite and Dominguez, not to mention Gunn, who was a good enough defence for Adamek, years later. Enzo got the fight, because as you say, the British public wanted to see it, but also lets not forget he was a highly rated world champ, who WAS considered the biggest threat to Haye and a bigger puncher than anyone else other than Haye, in the CW division at the time. So Haye unified against who was considered his biggest threat. What cant you understand there :huh
Haye picks and chooses at hw cuz he has too...he scared of the klitschkos and doesn't wanna risk getting his a$$ whooped by someone before he gets the klitschko payday
I highly doubt a fighter that won WBC WBA WBO Ring CW titles and the WBA HW in 24 fights and won most of those titles away is scared of anyone in the ring. Its now no secret that the Klitschkos contract isnt as it seems as Arreola and Chisora claim, and Haye as champion in his own right, dosent have to be dictated to :smoke
What is this a bloody forum for lawyers or a boxing forum? Stop b*tching about contracts, Haye has to fight a Klitschko or a top challenger (Povetkin, Adamek, Solis etc.) instead of fighting Ruiz, Harrisson... btw Chisora is lucky to get any kind of contract to fight the World Champion.
Ruiz has been knocked out by Tua in a 1 round destruction. James Toney and Andrew Golota both scored knockdowns against Ruiz. Valuev was wobbled after a few good uppercuts by Bergeron, Haye's big hand pretty much looked like a replay of that. Are people that stupid to believe Ruiz was never stopped and Valuev was never hurt? I mean how hard is it to do your research?
:nod For all his calling out of the Klitschko brothers, they're not "ripe" enough for him yet (especially Wladimir....and Vitali doesn't act his age) so the dance will continue for another few years if he doesn't lose in the meantime.