Haye's reasoning behind calling it off.......

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Heavyrighthand, Jan 6, 2011.


  1. BoxingFan2010

    BoxingFan2010 Boxing Addict banned

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    Mabye that is why Haye is mad about this? Besides, july 2nd to fight Wald is not that far away. Always see you defending Haye, Do you ever think why Haye does the **** he does? Or do you follow him blindly no matter what?

    Answer those two questions pls with a little intelligence. :deal I am waiting!
     
  2. BoxingFan2010

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    Jack I like debating with you as you do have good points and posts. Haye wants to retire on time, is that really the Klitschko's fault. Pls a honest responce.
     
  3. Jack

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    Nah, of course not, and I do think that Haye should postpone his retirement if he beats Wlad and especially if he went on to beat Vitali. The heavyweight champion is the most prestigious title in world sport, without question, and in recent years, it's been abused by the sanctioning bodies and terrible champions, who have destroyed what it meant to be the 'heavyweight champion'. If unification between Wlad and Haye happened, I'd want Haye to try and restore the pride in the heavyweight division and obviously he wouldn't achieve that without fighting Vitali too and then holding onto the titles for a couple of years.

    It's not the Klitschko's fault and I would lose respect for Haye if he did retire as unified heavyweight champion and allow the titles to be fragmented once again.

    That said, Haye has made it clear that he will retire and if the Klitschko's want to fight him, they should go out of their way to do so. Should they have to? No, but if they truly wanted it, they would. We know that Haye will only have two more fights and if Wlad fights Chisora, a totally meaningless fight, he can't fight both Klitschko's. So if they both truly wanted Haye, why would they make a meaningless fight happen which then means it's impossible for Haye to fight both brothers? It just doesn't make sense.

    It's quite a complicated situation, I suppose, but I would fault Haye if he retired, yes, and it's not the Klitschko's fault, but if they both truly want to fight him, then by asking for a fight with Chisora, an undeserving opponent, they are ensuring both fights will not happen.
     
  4. wlad1111

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    I actually think Chagaev fight could be good for Haye. I think Haye can beat him pretty fast after Wlad pounded half of his brains out. Now Haye can claim that he knocked out another Wlad's damaged good faster.
     
  5. Words

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    If it's doable, then how come it's taken Wlad 11 years to do it since his last fight at 8 weeks notice, when he was 23 years old.
     
  6. wlad1111

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    Maybe because division is not full of young talented fighters with good records who want to fight him or maybe since he is a champ he does not really have to but since the most popular drama queen wants to retire he wants to make some good money . People already complain that he is fighting chumps if he fought that often he would have to fight champion of a local gym.
     
  7. HENDO

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    Wow, the thread starter is a ****in idiot.

    Chagaev is a ****in BUM. He's a NOBODY. Yes, he's probably Klitschko's best WIN, but that says it all. Klistchko's resume is PATHETIC.

    Chagaev is a ****IN PREDICTABLE BUM.
     
  8. Goodhill

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    to keep this as simple as it is;

    Haye was ok with 2.7 fight (he has to have either unification fight or mandatory against Chagaev)

    Wlad is ok with the 2.7 fight.

    Only thing that seems to trouble Haye is that Wlad (in his greediness) wants to cash-out the current RTL-contract with Chisora fight before the 2.7 megafight.

    So it's Haye who won't agree the fight. He was ready to wait until 2.7 for his next bout and nothing has changed in that (Chisora -fight won't change anything in Haye's part, his training etc. would be the same with or without Chisora -bout).

    I want to see this fight and it seems that either Wlad has to turn down few millions coming to him from the Chisora -fight or Haye has to calibrate his mind ("it's unfair that the russian brick can have a tune-up and I can't") so that we can see this fight.

    Somebody has to give in, either the other guy turns down a big sum of money or the other stops thinking what's fair and just.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Whether or not Wlad fights Chisora.... Wlad vs Haye isn't going to happen until July 2nd. So, I don't see why the WBA would force Haye to fight, just because Wlad is fighting. That makes no sense. Haye simply doesn't want Wlad staying active. He is trying to gain any advantage possible... or look for a way out.
     
  10. Goodhill

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    This is it - plain and simple.
     
  11. Jack

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    That's what has been reported, but I agree, it shouldn't be the case. I'm not exactly surprised considering it's the WBA, though. In some divisions, they have three world titles themselves. Just a joke of a sanctioning body.

    If they are going to demand Haye/Chagaev then it means, at the very most, we'll only see Haye fight one brother. I think that would be a shame, especially if he beats, presumably, Wlad.
     
  12. HENDO

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    Maybe if Wlad's GAY ass would just MAN the **** UP and fight in APRIL when he would make MORE ****IN MONEY, then we woudln't have this problem.

    But he's a CONTRACT *****.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Wow, you are really slow.:rofl

    You realize that it is Haye who turned down April, right? Haye said that he can't fight in April because Sky can't do PPV so close to Khan's PPV, which is also in April.


    Wlas IS fighting in April, jackass.
     
  14. HENDO

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    He said MAY.
     
  15. millertime1367

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    why may? haye and chagaev fought in Nov! they need until May?