Haye's Silence About Klitschko Now is speaking Volumes

:rofl Just :rofl

 

Why are we still talking about this?
Hasn't everything that needs to be said been said?
Lets just wait till the deadline date and see what happens shall we?

(Learn something from the Manny/Hatton dispute guys)atsch

 

Not with somebody like yourself

 

Yeah, thats a great comeback. I been watching Wlad since 02, as close anyone on ESB. He is not mentall tough for a Heavyweight champion, the guys been down more times than Boy George at a gay bar. Against Brewster, Purrity, and Sanders, he who are all Journeymen when Wlad lost to them, couldn't it out against them. The only time Wlad actually got past a tough fight was against Peter, even though anyone that saw that fight seen Wlad look extremely fragile and very beatable several times in that fight. Where when his brother fought Peter, he looked like a dominant champion and never showed weakness.

 

I guess being tough mentally means having a skull as an avatar. atsch

 

Offended you at some point have I?

 

He punched himself out in Purrity fight and it was stopped by a corner. In Sanders fight he got up like 5 times. In brewster fight he was almost dead since 1st round. Were do you see mental weakness?
Let me remind you that wlad fought a pretty tough prospect Peter when Vitaly fought something roundshaped and black with no aggresion what so ever.

 

Exactly, you have nothing to say, so you choose to attack my very basic avatar.

 

:nutYou have lost me..that post wasn't aimed at you though:good

 

You're right. What can I really say to a guy that thinks Wald is mentally weak and Haye will win a fight based on waiting till the last moment to sign a contract. Solid fight analysis of styles there. I'm out of my league on this one.

 

I refuse to make excuses for Wlad, he lost all 3 fights because he couldn't tough any of them out. Being tough does not mean beating or knocking out every oppenent infront of you without any problems. Being tough means, fighting through a difficult situation and finding a way to win. Wlad has only did this once, against Samuel Peter, though he did look extremely fragile in this fight, turning his back to his oppenent, panicking, and falling all over the place. Though he did he win, so I do give him credit for that.

 

lol np's, was just thinking 'damn I've pissed someone else off and again have no clue what I've said or done, damn this alcohol/crack addiction!'

 

I never said Haye would beat Wlad, I actually went on record as to say Haye would lose to Wlad in either the 6th or 7th round. I also never said Haye would win based on waiting till the last second to sign a contract, I just said it may give him an edge and possibly disrupt a guy thats not known for being mentally tough in the past.

 

OK. By your logic tough out means that fighter should gain his will in a fist and beat a guy when he losing? non of his loses was a competitive. Purity was a punching bag for young and crazy Wlad which as appears in 11th round can punch back. Sanders was no competition fight easer. Brester was near Ko until wlad ran out completely. Where do you see an opportunity to show how tough you are?

 

It was the 11th round of the purrity fight, he didn't have the will to fight on so his corner stopped the fight, his oppenent proved to tougher than him, even though not physically as gifted. Against Brewster, we all seen Wlad land punch after punch on Brewsters head, even the commentators were shocked that Lamon was still on his feet, and when Wlad started to get tired and fell apart mentally and was TKO'd by the much tougher Brewster. Against Sanders he couldn't do anything, he was overwelmed and hurt, and couldn't find it in himself to stay on his feet and tough it out.

Wlad does not have the inner strength of the all-time great champs that came before him, he appears fragile when the going gets tough, and often times falls numerous times or panicks into submission. He has ATG skills, but has far from ATG mental toughness.