Haye's Sparring Partner For Vitali Klitschko: Lennox Lewis

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  1. SAS2

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    lewis has man-love for the klits....
     
  2. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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  3. Farmboxer

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    Vitali has been trying to get Lewis into the ring for years, he is ready to sign for the rematch. Vitali was cheated out of a knockout win over Lewis when the fight was stopped. Lewis was ready to go, he was out of it.
     
  4. paulfv

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    Lewis has been advising opponents of the Klitschkos for years, and clearly still harbors a grudge or whatever against both guys and is trying to help get them beaten. Nothing new here. In fact, Lewis promoted/helped promote either the Wlad-Sanders or Vitali-Sanders fight, I believe, as well as 'advised' Sanders for it.

    The more Lennox indulges in these antics the easier it is to recognize how bitter he is about his fight with Vitali and how threatened he apparently feels his legacy is by the brothers.

    Whoever it was (Widow Maker?) that said Lewis should be removed from Klitschko broadcasts is correct. But it hardly matters. All Lennox does on such evenings is make a fool out of himself and expose his pettiness to the world regarding the Klitschkos that everyone already knows exists.

    I guess Lennox can't handle having two guys around who are bigger than he is physically (taller), smarter/more educated (Lennox always loved his 'chessplaying, intelligent' label) and at least as successful with marketing (Hugo Boss, ...). Not to mention after all the junk that Lewis talked about how weak the brothers were he got mauled inside the ring when he fought Vitali, escaped after being behind on all cards 4 rounds to 2, was out-thrown 2 to 1 as well as out-landed and was battered from pillar to post. Apparently, all of this can produce bitterness in ex-fighters.

    Sad.

    As someone alluded to previously, I do think that as much as Lennox wants to help Haye with sparring, he is likely trying to gage where his own body is at in terms of whether or not a comeback is possible. No better way to find out then to spar with the guy who is likely the fastest in the division. As ODLH can tell you, if you can't handle the speed the rest won't matter. So, Lennox gets to see for himself if he can still cope with that aspect against other fighters.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    It's time that Lewis step up and fight Vitali as he promised. Teddy Atlas will pick Haye to beat Vitali, so it's two curses.
     
  6. ko_bros

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    Nothing new here. Lennox always tries to help other fighters to beat Vitaliy. But fails. :)
     
  7. paulfv

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    What's funny, too, is that anytime it comes to predicting Klitschko fights Lennox becomes Teddy Atlas. Imagine that. Always picking Klitschko losses can have that effect on your prognosticating reputation.
     
  8. ko_bros

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    Yep, true. And its a good sign for Vitaliy, not that I think that he would lose anyways. Its an automatic W for Vitaliy:p.
     
  9. paulfv

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    Ha ha ha. Very true, Ko Bros! :thumbsup
     
  10. ko_bros

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    :good
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Lewis knows that cutting Vitali that night wasn't a matter of skill, and was very much lucky. And he was getting, paulfv put it right, mauled. It was a great fight, he had great moments, and won two rounds, but he was getting roughed up hardcore, and was badly hurt in round 2.

    Lewis wanted, and for his own sanity, needed to win that fight some way other than the way he won it. He won that fight exhausted, and hurting on his stool when the doctor pulled his still completely motivated and enraged challenger out of the fight because of a ****ed up face. Lewis won that night, but he didn't win because of skill, like he was used to winning: He won because his opponents face opened up from a few lucky punches and one tremendous uppercut that would have put down a rhino, but that his foe ate with ease.

    That would be a terribly sore thing on anybodies mind, I think. Lewis is an all time great champion, and a prideful warrior, and to have his last, probably toughest, fight and win be a win he isn't proud of would hurt, badly. To a true fighter, that isn't a true win, and to a fighter who wasn't old and past it, it would scream rematch or haunt you forever. Lennox had an excuse, a damn good one, for not being able to do it again.

    Lewis ducked the rematch with Vitali because he was far out of his prime, not because he was scared. It's obvious he would love to beat Vitali the fighters way, Lennox is a true champion, but understands that he would need to be a younger man to beat Vitali, and his pride wouldn't allow him to go out of his boxing career getting kayoed by his new nemesis. Ever since then, Lennox has wanted his heirs, the ones he failed to or didn't get the chance to decisively derail, derailed.

    He wants to see Vitali knocked out, beaten up and eventually made to bend like he was bending in their fight. He wants to see him shaken up badly, the way he was shaken up in the first and second rounds. And he wants to see what happens in that 7th round that never got fought when Vitali is in the same shoes Lennox was in, and doesnt have a cut to taint a concrete result. For nothing but his own peace of mind, I feel Lennox wants to confirm that Vitali is mortal, and not some kayoproof terminator. As a former opponent of Lennox, Im convinced this is his mindset. Regardless of a totally legit win that came when the man wasnt in his prime, Lennox hit a wall that night, and that wall wasnt a wild one punch from McCall or Rahman. Thats the first time in his career, besides Mercer depending on whose scoring, that Lennox was being clearly edged(Thats a 4-2 fight, easy to score) and beaten up the way he was. And, he never got a chance to exorcise that demon! I understand the hate for Vitali; He's the only demon in Lennox's career yet to be exorcised.
     
  12. ko_bros

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    Good stuff:good
     
  13. paulfv

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    A terrific post, and one borne of a lot of first-hand knowledge, I'm sure (of the fight game). :good

    I don't know who you are, MagnaNasakki, but thanks for sharing your insight with the rest of us. :thumbsup
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

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    Thanks paul, the key is, what people don't much understand or give Lennox or either Klitschko much credit for, is both men have warriors spirit, and a ton of pride. Pull of a comeback like Wlad has if you don't, try. You should see them in the gym, folks. They train like animals, they fight as hard as they can, and they love victory. We've all had that bully on the playground, or the sports rival that we just...can't...defeat, and Vitali is that for Lennox, and its an awful shame he arrived at the end. Lennox got the win, but in his own eyes its tainted. Its the first foe Lewis hadn't managed to decisively beat. Imagine your own pride if you were this level of fighter, and finally met the man who stayed with you every step of the way, and who you just couldn't concretely defeat? It'd eat at you too. I know I have a few rivals from my amatuer career that still burn my memory and my cheeks to think about. If Lennox could edit ONE moment in his life, I guarantee it would be to knock out Vitali for real.
     
  15. Cameron

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    this is probably a smart move