Haye's Sparring Partner For Vitali Klitschko: Lennox Lewis

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  1. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Completely agree.This guy is ****ing deluding himself.I mean how the **** do you avenge a win??
    Please 'Dr Phil',take this opportunity to explain this and justify your plain ignorance also.
    Thanks
     
  2. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis never looked too clever against Bruno either and was behind with one judge (level with the other two). It was one of his strengths that he could find something to win a fight when it wasn't going well.
    He was overweight and out of shape when he fought VK who was a late replacement for someone (can't remember who,) and still beat him.
     
  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope.

    I think he is just a ******.
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    johnson
     
  5. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodWhat an epic **** up
     
  6. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dunno, was it the one that ran away from Rahman, or the one that fought him twice :huh
     
  7. Dave_JR

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    Replace Lewis on HBO with Mike Tyson, he d be a great colour commentator
     
  8. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox doesn't have the balls?Don't give me that ****!He always fought the best.Lewis was well past prime,old and overweight when he beat a prime Vitali.Why does he need to take the rematch?He can enjoy his retirement safe in the knowledge that he went out on top:hi:
     
  9. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Why is it people all of a sudden stop understanding boxing when it comes to this fight?

    Lewis got himself into a position where he'd injured Vitali so badly that it would have been dangerous for Klit to continue. Where's the controversy?

    What use is winning 4 rounds out of 6 if in the process your opponent is smashing your face to pieces and leaving you unable to see?
     
  10. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You honestly believe Lewis landed only lucky punches vs Vitali??
     
  11. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post:good
     
  12. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No,the fact is he went in with Vitali and beat him
     
  13. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not Dr. Phil, friend, just a fighter and a casual friend of Mr. Lewis' shariing my opinion on the matter. With my substantial experience, I feel it is every bit as valid as yours, and as Mr. Lewis has had no honest, tell-all biography, all we're doing is speculating. I am rather certain I am right, though.

    You are a sports fan, and a boxing fan. A win is a win, you are certainly quite right. Nobody is denying, not even my post, that the Lewis victory was totally legit. Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko.

    Here was my point, sir. A true fighter, a warrior, a man who has won the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, who stood in front of some of the divisions bigger punchers and had the balls to throw his own bombs back, who boxed legends and never once looked intimidated or cowardly, wants to win a fight two ways. He wants to knock his opponent the **** out, spark him, leave him on the canvas with no doubt at all who the better fighter was. You're a big Haye fan, I'll guess, what David did to Enzo Mac is a perfect example. If he can't do that, Lennox the champion wants to dominate, and outskill a man so that the outcome cannot be questioned. He knew he couldn't simply crack David Tua, so he did the next best thing, and pasted him over 12. It was a great performance, one he should and is proud of.

    Against Vitali, none of the above happened. The man who got rocked worse in that fight was Lennox. He was more hurt in round 2 than Vitali was in round 6. Thats a blow to his pride. He was not clearly winning, as a matter a fact, was clearly losing. OUCH. And his opponent, who was also fading and taking punishment, gets pulled out on a cut when he wanted nothing more than to keep fighting. A true fighter doesn't look at that and say "Thank god, a wins a win, I cut him and he got pulled out. I'm sure glad that ended then, who know's what would have happened!"

    A true champion thinks, "I wish those goddamn cuts hadn't happened, so I could have taken my man into deep water and ****ing finished him!" To quote Lennox directly, "I wanted to hit him more!"

    Thats a victory stolen, friend. Thats a controversy. There are people, whether you disagree or not, people who will taint that win till the end of time. They shouldn't, as it's legit, but that win was far from concrete, and Lennox was far from dominant. Imagine if Sugar Ray Leonard got pulled out of the Hearns fight with because of his eye? Both men would have felt cheated, because the war, the even pitched battle between the champion and his worthy challenge was cut short without a definitive ending. Any fight that ends with the winner collapsed on his stool feeling like he can't lift his arms and the challenger screaming at the doctor to let him fight, is going to leave a nasty taste in both camp's mouthes. These two men wanted to finish eachother, and a gory mess stole the epic round 7 we never got to see from both guys. Vitali chased a rematch, hell yes he did, he was winning the fight, didn't hit the canvas and was stop by a doctor. Id call him a coward if he didn't. Im also convinced the only reason Lennox didnt and won't give him one is because Vitali was younger, closer to his prime, and Lennox was leaving his more every day. He made a good, honorable decision.

    Try showing more respect in future posts. Im in a benevolent mood, I could have typed fail, but I'd like to have a civil discussion with you about these points. Everybody gives Vitali the warriors credit for LOSING that way, but I feel that nobody has explored how the champion would feel, how it felt to Lennox to WIN that way. I think it'd rile any one of us, truth be told, and I'd dislike Vitali too. His damn fragile face stole a knockout win from me, and forced me to retire from this sport by exposing how faded I had truly become. **** him. I wan't to see him hit the canvas, right where I would have put his ass in round 7. Being behind on the cards doesnt matter if I knock my man the **** out. Atleast, I think that would be my personal thoughts on a similar matter.

    And Latif, Lennox has the cajones of a bull. Would you want to meet your peaking challenger when your body has aged, worn, and started to not work the way you want it too? Would you want to gift wrap him a victory over you? I disagree with the end of your post, but do appreciate the support, and am humbled by it. Thanks mate!
     
  14. billyk

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    The doctor was looking at Vitali between rounds since the end of the third. Both fighters knew what would happen if Vitali didn't knock LL out quickly after the third. Lewis knew to target Vitali's left eye to get the fight stopped. Vitali knew he pretty much needed a KO.

    It's called tactics.
     
  15. Boxing Gloves

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    Lewis beat Vitali...some people need to deal with it, a prime motivated Lewis would have crushed Vitali, Vitali couldnt even beat a Lewis in the worst shape of his career,
    thats pretty bad to be fair.