Haye's yet to prove@HW. WAIT! Wasn't Marciano, Louis, Patterson etc less than 200lbs?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just an info on these threads and posts how Haye has yet to proove himself, his power, his chin, his stamina, everything at HW...

    A few years back, a guy who fought at about 200 pounds was called a heavyweight. Simple as that. Louis and Frazier fought at about 200 pounds, Walcott, Patterson etc. were usually lighter...

    This thread's just a reminder that in the perspective of HW history, Haye has already had a dozen fights at 200 pounds therefore at 'HW', and for example, 200 is 7 pounds more than Roy Jones' weight in the Ruiz fight! Dozen fights and dozens of punches took from 'old weight HWs'...

    Of course there's a difference getting hit by a 270-pound fighter, but I dare to say that a quick 200-pound fighter does just as much damage with a punch as a slow, body-powered, inaccurate fat f.ck. Haye himself is the proof...
     
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  2. Sakura

    Sakura Boxing Addict banned

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    Haye doesn't do anything at all in heavyweight division..let's check out and wait.
     
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  3. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    heavys are bigger now than even 35 years ago (when frazier was fighting) obviously. some of that is nutritional and training progressions w/ more guys being taller and filled more and some of that is lack of discipline on some fighters. there's just more fighters that are 6'4 or so and 240-250 lbs. that said haye could probably easily fill out to 220 and be fine in today's division imo -- he shouldn't lose quickness. the only issue is how his chin holds up w/ more power applied.
     
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  4. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apart from Lennox Lewis..

    Two best heavyweights of the past 20 years...

    where 215 - 220 pounds in prime condition.

    Evander Holyfeild and Mike Tyson.

    David Haye is 6"3..and his natural weight is 215 - 220 pounds.

    Good Height, Good Reach, power and speed..and great athletic ability.

    Not many heavyweights today can say they have that.
     
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  5. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Nobody can say how he will do until we see him there........but he has the tools for DAMN sure.
     
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  6. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    His chin and lack of defense will do him in. He is not as skilled as some of these lesser heavys now as well. He is just a puncher with an equalizer that is all.
     
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