Haymon says Spence doesn't need Crawford

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe he’s got a point.Spence doesn’t need a loss to Crawford but the division needs it imo.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Should be embarrassed to mention Jermall Charlo with the way he’s been handled at Middleweight.
     
  3. The Akbar One

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    People can stay where they want to stay. Spence is with Haymon, the guy who has most of the viable welter weight opposition. Crawford made a choice to stay with the promoter who had no top tier welters. Those are facts. Spence has guys to fight, Crawford doesn't. Spence can rematch Porter. Fight Garcia, fight Pac, fight Thurman, in a year Ennis will be ready for a title shot. It's not Spence's fault that Crawford preferred easy money fights. Crawford's contract had run out. As I already explained, he didn't have to re-sign with Top Rank. It was his choice. Crawford in the meantime, is fighting Euro level opposition. So no, I won't blame Spence, or Haymon for that.
     
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  4. J Jones

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    I don’t blame Spence or Crawford. The blame falls on Uncle Al and Bob “Yesterday I was lying, today I’m telling the truth” Arum.

    If I had Bezos or Buffett or Gates money, I’d make the tough fights li’e this:

    40-40 split. Remaining 20% in a side pot and divvy it up according to the outcome. KO winner gets the full 20%, decision winner gets less than that (11-19%) with the lose getting whatever’s left.
     
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  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because hes a Spence fan and knows his boy is in for an a$$ whoopin when he faces Crawford. So tired of the excuse about Crawfords resume when these same Spence fans were hyping their boy as the next coming who was getting ducked out of fear before he faced anybody. gtfoh
     
  6. elmaldito

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    No ****, he doesn’t need another car wreck beating
     
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  7. tinman

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    So Spence is just gonna let big daddy Al Haymon bend him over like that???
     
  8. The Akbar One

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    That is a fair idea for a split between two equally deserving boxers. Crawford fighting guys who aren't even top 10 welters doesn't get him parity with Spence though.
     
  9. J Jones

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    The scenario I presented would allow the fighters to sort out the purse split. There’d be no parity in my scenario. The victor would Earn more than the loser.

    Arum and Haymon, both Harvard educated lawyers, can’t figure something like this out? Spence and Crawford have mutual respect for each other, but neither of them is scared of the other. Neither guy is scared of losing. In fact, I think they both think they’re invincible. They have to think these things just to achieve what they have.

    interested to see whether you are an objective fan, a Bud hater, a Haymon (PBC) apologist, or a die-hard Spence fan.
     
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  10. The Akbar One

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    Not a die hard fan of either. Spence just has a better resume, while Crawford isn't even fighting guys who are top 10 welters.
     
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  11. Manfred

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    While it is true that Spence doesn't need Crawford in a money sense, he needs him if he ever wants to lay claim on being the best welter weight out there.
     
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  12. dangerousity

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    All you’re doing is justifying and enabling a promoters in-house rules which shouldn’t matter to us fans and we should always demand the best fight the best.
    If every fan chastised promoters and fighters for hiding behind that excuse, we might get somewhere, but by justifying it, you’re pretty much enabling their excuse.
     
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  13. dangerousity

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    Well he did beat the guy who beat the guy who is is probably the no.3 WW in the world right now.
     
  14. theanatolian

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    Fury didn’t have to sign with TopRank, but he did. But Wilder still wants to fight him, and they’re more than likely to square off next year. Gvozdyk was with TopRank, and he still fought Stevenson. Jacobs was with PBC, GGG was exclusive to HBO yet they still fought. As you can see, any fight can be made if both sides want it bad enough. So yes, you should blame Haymon and Spence.

    When they say they don’t need Crawford, what they actually mean is that they don’t want to get that schooling and take the L.
     
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  15. Thanos

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    The only reason Bud isn't fighting Spence is because of Top Rank lol Bob should retire