Haymon, Schaefer agreed to terms. Floyd declined!

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  1. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    explain the scenario under the terms that arum agreed to, where manny could enhance his performance and not get caught, give us the drugs and how he would do it, i know you aren't a scientist but surely there must be some sort of method you have read about it, some scenario where a guy can take what would effectively be 19 days, and get effective results, mind you getting urine tested within that time and blood tested after the fight and 24 days before, and also, mind you, his red blood cell levels can't show any increases in his urine as well

    explain how that is done?

    and explain to me why Manny's fears of having blood withdrawn seem unreasonable to you, I am assuming you have seen his 05 interview after Morales 1.

    So if you think he was full of BS then, why?

    Do you think he is on steroids or do you think he is avoiding Floyd or both?

    I mean, seriously. Put down the ***** Tin Foil hat
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    So pacquiao saying "ok, see you later floyd" means "pacquiao is scared of floyd"?????????????????
    He agreed to the mediation terms.
     
  3. Boom_Boom

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  4. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Oh so you believed Arums lie version. The real version is that with the 24 day steroid testing period, Floyd would also have to make a public apology.

    Because there is no scientific evidence to support that taking a tea spoon of human blood effects your performance. If im to believe that I would also have to believe his excuse that he had the wrong socks and that a sky genie decides his fights before they happen.

    Now me being of sound rational mind cant possibly believe this to be true.
    I think he's a prideful diva as shown when the Ricky HAtton fight almost fell through because of his demands. I think he thought he was doing Floyd a favor by not making the fight a catchweight fight at 143 and 3/4ths pounds.
     
  5. Sweet Jones

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    Makes as much sense as your assertion that putting a good idea like blood testing into a contract is admitting you think your opponent cheats.
     
  6. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) Because they took blood from him in the first Morales fight close to the fight and he felt it weakened him as he stated in his 05 interview

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4[/ame]

    2) Because the drug testing that Pac has already agreed to both blood and urine, is significant to stop any possible effective roid abuse.

    3) Because as the fight draws near, they want less and less outside distrubances as they have to be more focused, in the case of Pac this is especially true due to his especially hard training. They certainly don't want 4 AM wake up tests a day or two before the fight.

    4)Because it is unreasonable, what Mayweather is asking, due to reason # 2 especially.
     
  7. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    YOu have never played sports I take it man and you have never taken supplements before.An example of a legal thing,take creatine and in 2 hrs time your performance will be on a different level.If you want weight and strength on you take V12 turbo and in 3 days you will have put on a stone.These are all legal and the illegal things are even more effective.Most steroids need 6 week cycles to achieve maximum results but with combinations synergistic effects can be realised in shorter times.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You are obviously mentally handicapped.

    If I ran a background check on you because you were black, what would you think?

    If I asked you to go above and beyond the norm to prove you didn't take drugs, what would you think?

    If you applied for a job and I told you that your resume was too good, so I didn't believe it was real, and wanted you to prove it was, how would you feel?

    You are just looking for any sort of loophole to shift the blame. Why??? Just accept it man, Floyd doesn't want this fight right now.
     
  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Oh my god, I took creatine for 3 years. Are you ****ing stupid?
     
  10. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you have completely avoided the direct question I asked.
     
  11. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    That reason is lame man.Manny admitted he was right on the weight and he didnt want to eat or drink any fluids.Dehydration makes people sick that's a known medical thing and at such times the body's immune system is weak.Why didnt he get a doctor's opinion as to the reason why he didnt have his strength instead of blaming 2ml of blood
     
  12. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huh? You don't think that the Mayweather's suspect Pacquiao of cheating? The two points people make to say he is on roids are 1)His allegedly super human like performances in the ring and 2) That he refused Team mayweather's version of testing

    plus, all the Mayweather's are on record with their suspicion, thats why they want the testing (supposedly,.....or maybe to avoid the fight and save face)
     
  13. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Thats because you made an uninformed post. Given that all we have heard is Arums mouth, a known liar, not Mayweathers side of the story, we can assume that we dont know the facts yet. Wait, I know reading is difficult for you, but my points not done.

    Just 30 minutes or so after the initial report, we find out that Pacquiao also demanded a public apology from Floyd along with teh 24 day concession.

    Now think for a moment. What had more to do with ending the fight, the 24 day concession or the public apology. Thata boy.

    Now for my question, is it scientifically reasonable to suggest that a person could feel weakened by giving a tablespoon of blood and the effects would last two days, knowing what we know about the bodies ability to replenish itself. Yes or no.
     
  14. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strawmen arguement AND irrelevant.

    And you STILL haven't answered the question.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    What question?

    You just told me that Floyd asking for this drug test is not him accusing Manny pacquiao of being on roids.

    Give me a question, I love answering them.