Haymon trying to trade fighters for Schaffer

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  1. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    That's the problem though, isn't it? Haymon is not a manger - he's an 'advisor' - this means that as the law stands he has no fiduciary duty towards his fighters.

    He can get them great deals now because he's essentially an agent of SHO and alongside the 'official' promoter Schaeffer (GBP) can bring enticing offers to selected fighters in the short term direct from the guys who hold the pursestrings....

    The tactic is hardly a new one in business - take a hit on profits in the short term to bring in the clients (in this case by paying the fighters more than the market can sustain) in the hope of gaining a large, hopefully decisive, advantage over a competitor.

    Unfortunately, however good the deals Haymon offers in the short term, if he screws the fighters over down the line, without his fiduciary duty (which would automatically fall upon him as a de jure manager), they may have little legal protection - he was only giving them 'advice' after all.
     
  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    fighters arent the brightest lot....but they arent completely stupid either......how many guys have signed with haymon over the last 6 months or so? quite a few......its not as if everyone, fighters and their teams, are completely ignorant to his practices and what he does.....and they seem to want this man working for them
     
  3. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you SweetJones !!! Someone that Understand Business relation ship between Client, Manager, and Promoter !!!

    For the love of god Thank you !!!!

    Again these so call boxing Fan should ask themselves why would anyone lock themselves into an exclusive promotional deal when it limits your options?
     
  4. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When Golden Boy launched, they proclaimed that they would be 'different' from the other old school promoters. That they would be a transparent promotional company that 'took care' of its fighters and got them a real cut of the money they 'deserved'.

    Yet, less than 10 years later, 'fans' are mad at Schaefer for not locking fighters into those same promotional 'slave deals' that they (fans) have spent the past 50 years complaining were ruining the sport and cheating fighters.

    It's dumbfounding.
     
  5. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Schafer haymon are the two biggest reasons Floyd ducked manny

    And when. You listen to Floyd he says, I'm going to listen to my advisors
    Leonard (ellerbe) Richard and al

    Floyd doesn't care about boxing

    And Richard and al are not boxing men, they don't give a flying f@ck

    Problem is there is competition out there

    MMA is stealing a huge part of boxings revenues
    And the WWE has always been there

    When people lose interest because Floyd is ducking manny

    EVERYONE IN BOXING SUFFERS FOR IT

    Floyd May just kill off boxing
     
  6. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    nope! dont try to paint schaefer has an honest hardworking guy who cares about people! a guy who was trying his best to run the business the best way he saw fit and that was beneficial to his company and the fighters that work with them!

    its cut and dry pal! schaefer is a crook who has been planning this move for years with haymon and his fighters! hes been planning to fuk oscar over for years obviously!
     
  7. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    and bob arum and michael koncz are the two biggest reasons manny ducked floyd

    this is easy work

    yer an idiot if you dont think schaefer is a boxing guy man...he loves it
     
  8. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    just how is he a crook ? No one has answer that question .. Because he quit GBP or he didn't dupe some young fighter into a long term promotional deal, which buy the way done through the fighter manager or advisor.
     
  9. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    king & arum those convicted criminals, are ****ing angels right?