HBO biased commentating

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by raiderjay, Jul 26, 2008.


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  1. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    I know that a lot of people have commented over the years that HBO's crew does quite a bit of rooting for whichever fighter is the HBO "house" fighter. But unfortunately the down point from tonights incredible fight was the commentating from Lampley and Kellerman. I normally don't have a huge problem getting past their rooting for one fighter over the other, because it is usually slight and not that noticable.

    Tonight on the other hand was incredible listening to them talk about how wonderful Cotto was and how he was essentially handing Margarito his ass. At one point in I think the 10th round Kellerman was blathering on (like usual) about how "if you look at Cotto's face, you would think he was losing this fight, which he is absolutely not". By the time he said this, it was an even fight on the scorecards and the momentum was obviously in Margarito's favor by a huge margin. This is just one example though of the fact that no one, not even Emanuel Steward was noticing that Margarito was breaking down Cotto from the 6th round on.

    Apparently we are only supposed to notice the flashy one punch shots of Cotto, instead of the 3-5 punch combo's that Margarito was landing on the inside. Like I said, it was a great fight between two great warriors, but unfortunately HBO gets a cut of the $50 I paid and the commentating that they put forth for my money was a complete joke.
     
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  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HBO commentator roots for whoever is HBO tells to hype. The young, the draw, and the undefeated.
     
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  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    (H)eavily (B)iased (O)bservations can be
    the mode of operation.

    Then you have Lampley "crying" and Cotto's wife & kid crying.

    Doubtful if Margo's family was crying...but we didn't see that.
     
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  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He never said that. From about the fourth round on they were saying that Marg's pressure was getting to Cotto, and Lederman gave Marg the second round which I thought belonged to Cotto for sure.
     
    bernie4366, Jul 26, 2008
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  5. chino2dapiapimp

    chino2dapiapimp WBC Fecarbox champ Full Member

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    I was thinking the same thing. In a sense it reminded me of Taylor Chavez. Where Cotto was winning rounds but he was getting beat up while doing it like Taylor. Hbo has that tendancy dont take it personal
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol: you sure?
     
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  7. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One thing that got me was in the 2nd or 3rd round Margo landed a nice left into Cottos stomach. I heard no comments from the HBO crew. It was a shot that clearly bothered Cotto, he pulled away ran a little to get some air back. Margo landed few but effective shots in those early rounds.
     
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  8. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    Who never said what? My quote of Kellerman? If that is what you are questioning, then listen to the broadcast again my friend. It's there and it's a joke.
     
    raiderjay, Jul 26, 2008
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  9. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Raider that isn't true. Both Steward and Kellerman said that they don't believe that Cotto could keep this up for a entire fight against the superb pressure by Margo. Kellerman said that Cotto has never been tested with such a pressure fighter as him. They were giving praises to both men. Steward couldn't STOP talking about how good of a pressure fighter Margo is. He LOVES Margo and kept reminding the others how Margo's pressure is coming on more and more and how Cotto can't hurt him. And he knew it was going to be over.

    Lampley seemed to be bias towards cotto. And Kellerman was right, Cotto was landing the more telling and harder punches -- just AM takes it much better than Cotto can.
     
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  10. Spitbucket

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    I agree HBO's bias was painfully obvious.

    And may I add, Kellerman can't score fights for ****:deal
     
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  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They were absolutely NOT nuthugging Cotto, I have no bias toward either fighter and I thought it was fairly commentated. What they DID say was that Cotto might have put the first five rounds in the bank and Marg could STILL be losing in the tenth round, which is true.

    On a side note, I see no way in HELL a 147 lb guy could stand up to the bombs that Cotto landed early with no ill effects like Marg did. Either he has a Wayne McCollough type chin or... or... I dunno. It was just amazing to me that he was able to walk thru those because Cotto can crack.
     
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  12. Zakman

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    They always make it out like the house fighter is winning. Jeez, when the fight was stopped, the judges had Margarito up by two points, just like I did. If you listened to HBO, you'd think Cotto was up by several points! Kellerman - who is the worst commentator in the sport - even said he did!! :patsch
     
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  13. Mohak

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    Everyone was crying tonight, even Emmanuel Steward was crying when he realized that the fight went exactly as he predicted. Then he predicted the world will end by 2056 and cried even more.
     
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  14. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    That isn't true? Let's start off with your comment that Cotto was landing the more telling punches. Do you know what that statement means? A telling punch is when you get a negative reaction out of your opponent after it lands. Such as disengaging or flat out running away. Margo didn't do that ONCE last night. The man never took a step back. So to say Cotto landed the more telling punches is a complete joke. To say that he also landed the harder punches is also hard to believe. His punches may have snapped Margo's head back, but to say they were harder punches is completely subjective that you have absolutely nothing to back it up with considering Margo was never even remotely hurt nor did he ever back up.

    Secondly, to give credit to the announcing crew for the fact that they commented on the completely obvious, that Margo was applying pressure is pretty lame also. Considering that Cotto spent about 95% of the time backing up into the corners and ropes means that obviously he was applying pressure. What they didn't mention was the work he was getting done inside with smaller accumulative shots that were making all the difference in the fight. Margo would land 4-5 punches out of 10 thrown with Cotto against the ropes, but then Cotto would counter with one good shot and then escape and all that was consistently mentioned was Cotto's one punch.
     
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  15. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    i was glad i watched the fight with latino commentators... didn't understand a single word.
     
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