HBO doc, Thrilla in Manila. Confirmed, Ali wanted to quit at the end of 14

how is it biased towards Frazier?
because not many people at the Ali camp get to speak,
Ali doesn't get to speak for himself, while Frazier says all this bull**** about him,
Holmes says Ali is overrated? did they even need to do that?
And for NO reason they bring up the fact that Ali had a lot of wives, that has nothing to do with the fight. there's a lot more but I don't remember.
why don't they make a Manila doc with Ali talking and the rest of his camp talking minus Frazier and his camp? I garuntee they would all have a different story.

 

Only because Hagler beat him far,far worse in 2 subsequent rematches.

 

Betty Boop

 

Cool avatar, never seen that one before :good

 

Is that even questioned? Old news. Futch beat him to it. It's still a legitimate win.

 

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Suzie Q never rests.

 

frazier was finished after 14 so was ali but he would never quit. ali collapsed in the rimg after he ko'd foreman in the 8th so that means FA.

 

What a strange thread :huh

I suspect there's an agenda behind it as per usual though...in fact I'm positive there is :roll:

Ali 'wanted to quit' so therefore it's OK for a certain other HW to actually quit, would be my guess.

 

What happened to That poster Quitali Bitchko. He was my favorite

 

This was shown a long time ago.

 

All I know is he was on my friends list, and he's welcome to re-join it should he turn up again

Honestly, the agenda here is so ****ing transparent it's laughable....Ali wanted to quit against Liston in the 1st fight, wanted to quit against Frazier in the 3rd fight....so therefore VITLAY quitting against Byrd isn't such a hideous crime after all, right?

Erm, no. Ali was facing 2 of the most murderous punchers in HW history, both top 10 HW ATG's and he wasn't in his prime for either match. VITLAY quit against a feather fisted former middleweight in his prime, end of discussion on this one.

I'm sure Mendoza will come back with some amazing percentages and other so-called 'facts' to dazzle us on this one though, can't wait :rofl I always love the part about how Lewis retired rather than face a man than he'd already beaten the snot out of, that gives me fits :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

You've probably nailed it.

 

John Thomas,

I need to start engaging in more convos with you. I feel like I hadvn't talked to you in ages. Maybe I will fill you in on me and Mcgrain's inside jokes on Big Bill Tate and Keene Simmons