Hbo fight purses low$$$$$$

Superfly 1 peaked at 835k viewers and averaged 730k. I haven't kept track of what HBO ratings have been like for the last five years, but the numbers are about what Donaire did with Narvaez back in 2011. It's about what Judah vs Malignaggi did, Gamboa vs Salido, Rios vs Alvarado, better than Golovkin vs Proksa, but usually up to about five years ago fights with names did a little over a million viewers.

Let me see, 2017 Spence vs Peterson drew 700k on Showtime. Crawford vs Diaz did 961k on HBO. Crawford($1.5 mil) vs Molina($400k) on HBO averaged 806k.

Found an article with last years numbers. https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/12...nates-top-20-fights-on-premium-cable-for-2017 Gonzalez vs Rungvisai 2 was the 7th highest rated boxing fight on cable last year. It came in a little under Kovalev vs Shabransky and a hair beneath Lomachenko vs Sosa for ratings. It did better than Cotto vs Kamegai or Saunders vs Lemieux. Saunders got 1 mil and Lemieux got half a mil. Lomachenko made 1 million and Sosa made around 100k. I don't know what they paid the undercards.

 

Cuadras amazed me, 25k is shocking, at the end he probably had 12-13k to himself... shocking. That's 40k a year if he fights 3 times, risking his life, slowly ruining his brain for this money, he is a world class boxer, 1 in 50000 boxers get to his level, absolute disgrace

 

The translation from US dollar is over 400k in their home countries

 

I forgot that on the Lomachenko vs Sosa undercard we had Usyk vs Hunter and Gvozdyk vs Gonzalez. That's a stacked card just like the Superfly 1 card that had Gonzalez, Inoue, and Estrada on it. Anyone know what Usyk and Gvozdyk got paid for that?

Superfly 1
Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez $600,000, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai $170,000.
Naoya Inoue $182,500, Antonio Nieves $35,000.
Carlos Cuadras $62,500, Juan Francisco Estrada $65,000.

Superfly 2
Rungvisai $250,000 Estrada $100,000
Cuadras $25,000 Arroyo $25,000
Nietes $40,000 Reveco $25,000
Viloria $50,000 Dalakian $25,000

With no Gonzalez and no Inoue on the card, Superfly 2 cost half as much as the first one. We'll see if the ratings were comparable.

 

The popularity of lighter weight classes and those fighters generating large purses is, in the history of the game, a relatively new thing.

The Sugar Ray Leonard-Wilfred Benitez fight at the end of 1979 was the first match where two boxers BELOW HEAVYWEIGHT were paid a million dollars.

In some weight classes, it took boxers another decade (OR TWO) to make even that much.

After the emergence of De La Hoya and Trinidad, and then the era of Pac, Morales, Barrera, Marquez and then Floyd, lighter weight fighters often made more than heavyweights because the heavyweight landscape was pretty barren in the 2000s.

Now it's kind of swinging back again. The only lighter weight guys who seem to be guaranteed a million or so a fight are Canelo and the PBC guys. And that seems to be winding down for the PBC guys, since most of have adopted the "fight once a year, make a million, take the rest of the year off" approach.

If you ever go to a fight, though, and watch light flyweights and some of those smaller guys, it's weird.

TV frames a boxing match so the boxers all take up the same space on the screen, regardless of how big or small they are.

In person, you see how small they are (and how big some are). And some of those fights involving smaller guys look like you're watching little kids fight. And the ring looks huge. And the fighters barely are the height of the top rope.

And some of those heavyweight fights you're shocked how little room in the ring there actually is to move around (or fall down).

And you kind of get the sense how dangerous it is to get punched by a monster heavyweight compared to getting punched by a grown man who weighs 105 pounds and is barely five feet tall.

I'm not saying it's right. But, in person, you can kind of appreciate more why bigger guys were historically paid more. If you mainly watch on TV, and everyone looks the same size, it seems more unfair.

 

How much profit was there?

 

Most professional boxers (as a whole) make next to nothing anyway.
I do acknowledge these little guys are on TV in primetime and are
making a pittance but again, at the end of the day, they are unknowns
(no matter the skillset and world levels), and they are also small. The
smaller classes, save for a few breakouts just don't generate revenue
consistently. Hardly at all TBH. Most people don't care to see guys that
are the same size or smaller their own children fight. I admit to this bias,
and literally pay no attention to anyone under FW, save for a few breakouts.

Do I think they should be paid more? Of course. At the same time,
I'd rather see B-level MWs or WWs than elite 115 pounders. *shrugs*.
It's still a tragedy they are paid what they are though.

But I digress.....Does anyone know what Calderon's purses generally were,
I'm curious.

 

I'm not sure. That would depend on the livegate, plus HBO subscriber revenue, plus international rights, minus expenses like renting the venue and promotional advertising. The television ratings that the Superfly cards generated are equivalent to those being produced by boxers making twice as much. Given those facts, we may assume that HBO could double the size of the purses and still make a reasonable profit.

 

Apparently, it was enough to buy 4 million dollars worth of cocaine. Hooooooo, you know he in jail.

 

Bingo. Then when the overpriced fight flops, the budget gets slashed when all they had to do was spend smarter in the first place.

The only upshot of that is now they have no choice to invest in the smaller guys to fill dates. They should've been a staple all along.

 

as long its a business, the money in/money out is the nr1, 2 and 3 on the importance factors list.

 

Seriously?! Wow..... I need to read up on this. Thanks