HBO, Fire Lennox.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tyson 2005, Nov 23, 2008.


  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Bayless was pretty surprised.

    McGirt probably felt that Paulie was holding constantly because he was ready to be taken out and did his man a favour (in his opinion).

    To me the only time he looked badly shaken was in the 2nd - and perhaps the 3rd. From then on Ricky seemed happy to let the schooling carry on and win on points.
     
  2. ekar

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    The curse of Buddy McGirt continue. Altough I think he sucks at trainning, his stopage earn my respect. Takes balls to make that call even if your own fighter will object. Paulie had no chance of winning, and looked like was getting rocked by unanwsered shots.
     
  3. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Well, another serious injury or death in a big match in the US would go a long way to getting the sport banned or even more limited. Don't like 12 rounds? How would you like to see pro fights more like amatuer fights? That fight was over long before the towel came in anyhow. He did the long term viability of the sport a big favor.
     
  4. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's already been said but Malignaggi was told by McGirt to start fighting because he didnt want to see anymore grabbing.

    Malignaggi didnt listen or try. Where was his aggression?
    He was hardly toughing it out like a man was he?

    It got stopped because he let it.
     
  5. heidegger

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    I have no problem with the stoppage.

    The fact is, Paulie was pathetic, he had one hand to defend himself, and he was hugging, not fighting. When a fighter has surrendered like that and refuses to even attemp an effective offence the fight just becomes a joke and should rightly be waved off.

    Did yall hear Lou Dibella say that if Paulie's corner didn't stop it, he would have?
    Paulies promoter was going to stop it!
     
  6. ekar

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    People say Calzaghe/Lacy should have been stop sooner. Calzaghe not really a puncher, Hatton hit's harder then him. Paulie had less chances to win then Lacy. This is the same situation, where a boxer is taking too much unnecessaery punishment. Good job Buddy, for wanting his boxer to be able to fight another day.
     
  7. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Paulie is the local guy for us but I think you are sooo wrong here. Fight should have been stopped two rounds sooner IMO
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    This sort of thinking is EXACTLY what is wrong with modern referees, and modern boxing fans. The job is to stop the fight when the fighter hits the canvas and can't get up.
     
  9. elTerrible

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    lennox is getting better at commentating, he still is boring and monotone but he sometimes has some good insight. He pointed out some flaws paulie had with his defense and dropping his left hand which was good.
     
  10. Steve Fox

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    There's no end of examples in the history of boxing, where a fighter needs protecting from there own courage. I don't want to see anyone get seriously hurt.
     
  11. Tyson 2005

    Tyson 2005 Member Full Member

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    Listen, let me just explain a few things real quick.

    1#- I'm not a Paulie fan, but if he wins, good for him.
    2#- If you box, you know its gonna hurt, Paulie wasn't that hurt, therefore it should have been his decision to throw in the towel rather than some guy in the corner. That's what I mean by being a man. I actually laughed at a few jokes you guys posted about Ali coming out of retirement, ha. When you're a man, you make you're own decisions, including quitting. Yea, sometimes guys are stubborn, that's what the corner is for, to tell them how they're doing. And if its real bad they say, "If you don't go out there swinging next round, I'm stopping this ****." Not "hey I'll throw in the towel mid round while you're still on you're feet."

    Did you guys even watch the fight? Paulie was throwing some nice punches and landing them, he was done with the score card, but not really done when it came to his fuel tank. This was a big fight for the guy, just trying to come up in the boxing world, the least you could do is let him show what he's got for the next few rounds. Going the distance is an amazing thing, especially for an underdog. Even if you lose, people are still shocked and amazed by how someone could out last the entire fight. That's the point of this whole argument. Why would Lennox say that it was right? Maybe he's just jealous the towel wasn't thrown in for him so maybe he can speak a little bit more properly.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    Up until this post I thought you were a rather intelligent poster who just happened to hate Lewis, now I think you're just a plain idiot.

    This is a sport where fighters put their lives on the line. But these fighters, who fight solely for YOUR ENTERTAINMENT, also have families. They're somebody's son and perhaps someone's dad.

    Are you a father?

    Do you care about the children of these fighters who are basically alive but no longer with us? Are you prepared to look after than individual for the rest of their lives once their ENTERTAINMENT value has diminished?

    You really have to re-think this. Every knock out is potentially life threatening and the latest science on this is that the damage accumulates with each concussion. But of course none of that matters as long as you're entertained.

    Now if it's a competitive fight, I can somewhat understand that logic as fighting is fighting and we want to see who wins. But if a fight in uncompetitive and one fighter is hanging on for dear life and the only issue is whether or not he'll survive, why would anyone what to see him continue until he's KO'd. That's just sadistic.
     
  13. TFFP

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    I downloaded the fight with HBO coverage and I enjoyed Lennox's analysis of proceedings.

    He's got a lot better from the first I heard him, when he sounded like a stuttering ******. He does not sound completely natural yet, but he's improving and I like to get some analysis from somebody thats been in the game recently.
     
  14. Hermit

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    You don't know that, but the point is to stop it before he gets seriously hurt. Damage is cumulative through out a career and you don't know until the end if it was too much or not.
     
  15. Hermit

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    I think his insight makes up for any other perceived short comings he may have. We generally cut the 'color' commentator some slack unless he is just REALLY awful. I prefer him over Steward though. Lennox isn't out trying to prove how savvy he is. He just tells it like he sees it as a former champ.