HBO: Francisco Vargas vs. Orlando Salido & Julian Ramirez vs. Abraham Lopez RBR.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Jun 4, 2016.


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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I said Lomachenko's stock went up and here you come to tear it down rain on my parade and spin it towards Mikey who of course is a Floyd lover, everything you do has an agenda behind it.

    Loma fought a much bigger guy in Salido that night and dominated the second half and had Salido on the verge of KO in the last round.

    Mikey started well and he was the bigger man and closed very poorly before the stoppage and TD, Salido was starting to get to him.
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dude wtf, this has NOTHING to do with Floyd at all. Are you trolling, or do you legitimately believe this has anyhting to do with Floyd? Holy **** you're way more paranoid and bat **** crazy than I thought. If I had an agenda for Floyd, in this instance why the fk would I pick Loma to beat him? That makes no sense at all, they're probably never going to fight, so I would easily be able to "troll" and not say my true thoughts by saying Mikey would easily ebat Loma, Loma was exposed by Salido blah blah blah.

    Even though Salido low blowed like 5000 times, and came in overweight, he still clearly won the fight against Loma. Sure it can raise his stock in a way I guess since Salido came in overweight, but not to the extent that it does for Mikey. Loma was just super green in that fight, it's a fight as a loma fan I want to forget, or get a rematch for, because I think loma would pick him apart now.
     
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  3. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    My VCash is now fully dependant on draws. Thanks guys.
     
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  4. Toker

    Toker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have to agree with you on that, I don't know why he's hating. Is it personal between you two?
    In any case winning is what I always thought made someone's stock go up. That being said I have no doubt that Loma would win vs Salido in a rematch. I mean that was what his second fight? I'm sure he has improved.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have no clue, I'm usually chill with CST. I didn't expect him to go off like this on me, or I wouldn't have actually wrote that to him.

    I think Loma learned A LOT against Salido. He now knows how to cope with the dirtiest scums in boxing. Salido is by far the best low blower I've ever witnessed. I dont know why Loma was not expecting this, but I guess it's easier to prepare for something than to actually go through it, and now wiht this experience I see him making Salido look absolutely silly.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm not in a great mood for a variety of reasons and maybe you caught some of the shrapnel, that being said, don't take every opportunity you can to tear down Lomachenko, GGG or Kovalev any time I say anything positive about them.

    Vargas is as solid as they come and Salido fought a damn good match and most including myself thought he had no chance and by all rights won that match 7-5 at least it was a draw, anything less would have been a robbery. I've rated Vargas and Miura highly for quite some time and for him to do as well as he did tonight was very impressive. Vargas most likely hits harder than both Mikey and Roman but lacks the precision they possess which seems to effect Salido more than thudding power, which is why they dropped him but Vargas couldn't. In spite of them being natural counter puncher he still close exceptionally well dominating Rocky for much of the last 6 in both of their matches, and as much as people try to pretend that the Garcia match was a domination and technically it was, Mikey was falling apart badly at the end, the pressure was getting to him and when Salido started getting dirty he didn't know what to do, his nose was in pretty bad shape but he was looking for a way out.

    Whereas Loma got stronger the longer the match when on, unlike Rocky, Mikey and now Vargas.

    Lomachenko didn't lose that match, I'm not alone in thinking it should have been a draw, and he came back like a beast in the last 6 (who else has the stamina to beat down a fighter known for his insane pressure and very good gastank in the last 6 in their second professional match?).

    Mikey fought Salido in his 31st match.

    That was Vargas' 25th match.

    Lomachenko that was his 2nd.

    Loma's stock goes up, he finished stronger, not holding, gassing or running like they did, and that was after being fouled over 100 times by a Welterweight.
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Who got Robbed on a pbc card?
     
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  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    God bless Mexican boxing
    What a war
    Blood & guts
    Que Corazon
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I think he meant Lopez-Ramirez which isn't a PBC card. that was disgraceful I gave Lopez 1 ****ing round and when they were reading the scores I was shocked that the scores were closer than they should be for Ramirez, imagine my shock when they read it was for Lopez.:-(
     
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  10. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Salido clearly beat Loma, Loma's stock doesn't go up or down based on this.
     
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  11. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    **** I had it 7-3 for Ramirez and close your switching to Lopez:verysad should have done it.
     
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  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Loma whoops his ass in the rematch. Bank on it:deal
     
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  13. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Conditional tense has zero credibility I am afraid.
     
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  14. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    V Lom was definitely getting stronger as the rounds went on, I think it being his second match saved Salido because if Vasyl had stepped that up a little earlier he might have gotten a stoppage
     
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  15. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Salidos improved since whipping Loma

    Loma could get knocked out in a rematch
     
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