HBO had the balls to take a stand!!

Your unfortunately right, the UFC is what the younger generation is into now adays. The truth of the matter is, Wlad is boring, both in and out of the ring. Thats fine he wants to give money to kids and ****, but he's not enertaining enough to get the american peoples attention and put the Heavyweight division on top again.

Not only were the Heavyweights of the 90's more talented, they knew how to pomote a fight. I talked in great depth about this in an earlier thread today. The Heavyweights of today just dont know to promote themselves, and thats a big part of the reason its lost touch with the average fan. Wlad just dont have that "It" factor guys like Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman had. Plus many Americans could relate to them in one way or another. Wether you were pissed off at life and came up the hard way, Tyson was your man. If you were always the underdog in life with a huge heart, maybe Holyfield was the guy you looked up to. If you were a middle aged man and felt like life is passing you by and you think your too old to do certain things, Foreman was who you pulled for. In the 90's there was someone for everyone. Not many can relate to a 6'6 naturally gifted eastern european with a PHD, I know I cant.

 

Arreola Vs. Haye would be good, Arreola by knockout. However, Vitali really does want to fight Haye, he did before, but WBC ruled he had to fight Gomez. Now Maskaev is in the way. The ABC's are keeping the fans from watching some good fights. Don King owns 50% of Valouev and 100% of Ruiz.

 

UFC sucks, lousy excuse for fighting, i always have thought boxing was the gentleman's sport.

 

I dare you to go into your neighborhood bar and ask who the Heavyweight champ of the world is, I bet out of 20 people you ask, only 2 or 3 know the right answer. Go one step further and ask them if they know who Wlad Klitschko is, I can assure very few men actually know who that is.

I like Haye, he brings personality and excitement to a lifeless division. He's not the type of fighter I normally back, but I see alot of qualities in him, that can help put the Heavyweight division back in the spotlight again. For that reason alone, he's got my full support.

 

That's still more than the number of people who are aware of who David Haye is. And you just said that Haye was the most popular of the 3...
It seems like the Sammy Peter fiasco has taught you nothing...

P.S. I went to the Klitschko & Haye press conference in NYC, talked to some people there. Most of them knew nothing about David Haye, and in this case we're talking about people who regularly hang around boxing events. That's gotta tell you something about Haye's "popularity" in the States.

 

Vitali sold out at MSG during a huge snow storm years ago. He stopped Kirk Johnson in round two.

 

David Haye is on the come up, Wlads been a pro since 96 and an olympic gold medalist. As well as champ twice, and has held the IBF belt for 3 years and rings number 1 heavyweight in the world for that long as well. He's still not that popular outside of his addopted state of California, where he moved to in the early 2000's.

Haye is the future, Wlad has had his chance to make waves in the wide open Heavyweight division. And on the big stage, was booed for fighting scared against Iggy early last year. All I'm trying to say is Wlad's not a mainstream Heavyweight. Haye on the other hand has the pontential to become that, the exciting fighting style, enertaining personality, and the looks to put himself in the spotlight.

 

If Vitali and Vlad were to retire today, Haye will still get knocked out by Arreola, boytsov, Ustinov, Valouev, Dimitrenko, Chagaev, you name it.

 

Tye Fields would knock Haye out even with less than one years as a pro.

 

Vitali's first PPV fight against Danny Williams in late 04, did extremely low numbers for a heavyweight bout, which goes to prove even the more enertaining brother of the two still couldn't get the mainstream appeal, even while in his prime.

 

I think you mean Tyson Fury? The guy calling out Sam Peters.

 

HBO is losing it. They spend all of their money on Golden Boy promoted cards. HBO failed to show Vitali v Peter and Vitali v Gomez. It seems that HBO targets low weight divisions...which I do not really understand.

 

Thats because the average fan could care less about the lackluster Heavyweight division. ****, even some diehard fans on ESB claim they dont really follow the Heavyweights much anymore. Why should HBO put money into something that they know not alot of people will want to see?

 

I do not know about TV numbers but I see people downloading heavyweights more than any other weight divisions. Heavyweights get more attention without any doubts. Just check the number of downloads even for a local fight like Boytsov v Bidenko. It is pretty obvious.

The only explanations is that HBO wants to show only American fighters. To invest in local fighters. Thus HBO has become a local network not a world boxing leader. HBO used to be a world boxing leader.

 

If you're going to run this 'moving from CW to HW is much harder that between any two other divisions' argument then surely you should at least be noting that the situation was not identical for Hloyfield and Haye. It is easier to move up from CW to HW now than it was then, simply because the CW limit is 10 pounds higher now. If Haye had made his pro debut at the same time as Holyfield did the likelihood is that he never would have even bothered fighting at CW as he would not have been able to maintain 190lbs for any length of time.

I'm not sure as to your argument that Haye 'avoided any serious competition' after beating Mormeck. He always intended for that to be his last fight at the weight, although ended up taking the Maccarinelli fight when Frank Warren put a lot of cash on the table. It's not like he spent ages defending against bums. Actually there wasn't really any serious competition at that time, so probably a good decision.