HBO is whats wrong with Boxing. From the Pros to the amateurs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Real-G, Jul 12, 2013.


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  1. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HBO and Bob Arum's latest move to cancel all Rigondeux fights, has just proven that HBO lacks the respect for the true art of boxing.
    Instead of trying to educate their audiences on the different, styles and facets of boxing, HBO would would rather oust better skilled fighter like Rigondeux, in favor or the less skilled Ball room brawlers like Donair.

    This style of fighting may be great for TV ratings, but it does little in the way of motivating fighters to develop better boxing skills so they become better well rounded fighters. Instead fighters are lead to believe, that all they need to succeed in boxing, is a strong arm and fast hands.
    Only to have their manager and promoter carefully match these fighters against weak oppositions.

    Even worse is the Boxing fan base HBO is catering too. These fans seem to think that every boxing event should resemble a Rocky movie.

    As the level of skilled fighters are dropping here in the US, there is a rise in boxing skills in other countries like Russia , Great Britain , Ukraine, Ireland and even Brazil, who clamed they will have more gold medals then the US in the next Olympics.

    I mean really Brazil ?!

    The evidence that the US is losing it grip on the sport, is the amount of gold medal fighters America has produced in the last 20 years. yeah laughable !!

    The fact that the US only won one gold medal in the 2012 game and it was by a 17 year old female no one knows and cares even less who she is. Does any one else knows who she is with out having to google her?

    At this rate Boxing will be next the event to be dropped from US olympic roister, just as wrestling has been due to the lack of interest.
    As the US become weaker and weaker in this Olympic event, so will american interest, and when that happens I think boxing will be all but dead in the US.

    The type of narrowed minded thinking, that HBO is leading against the sport of boxing will only kill it.

    Sorry for the Rant !
     
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  2. HIGHCOLLIDE

    HIGHCOLLIDE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great post!

    i cant stand hbo and bob arum.
    they are disgusting.

    the fact they are loosing the battle to showtime and there roster is diminishing,u would think they wouldnt ler rigo get away,
    and instead they are mad and got there thongs twisted cause rigo out classed donaire
    and shitted on there "new pacman" donaire.

    as much as i have watched hbo and been a fan for years,it is obvious that thet are getting there ass wooped by showtime in every facet.

    **** bob arum.he is going down in flames and its shamefull hbo is letting arum take them down with em.dumbasses
     
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  3. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think it will cause boxing to die in the states just change it. Look HBO sells RIOS Alvarado fights as great boxing. It may be fun to watch but not great boxing. 2 guys stand in front of each other and trade punches untill one gives up, then rematch same thing different winner. That is the kind of boxing HBO wants to be about and that is the fanbase they want. Why? Because those type fans don't need great boxers like Mayweather and rigo they just want to see sluggers who have all heart and very little craft.
     
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  4. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That goes for all casual fans, at any point in history.

    The Rigo situation is sad, but HBO has no obligation to show any fighter. Nobody is stopping him from fighting.
     
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  5. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They do not have an obligation to the fighter but to the sport. Rigo and guys like him are the artists of boxing and to not show them is to deny the art of the sport. I don't like Mozart but I know he was a genius, how will the casual fan ever respect true skill and craft if they are not exposed to it?
     
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  6. Tkbtown

    Tkbtown Quintuple champion Full Member

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    Well.... welcome to the professional boxing
     
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  7. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree .. Look at the state of the heavy weight devision.

    Kilts are highly celebrated in Germany and in other parts of the Globe, while the Heavy weight picture in a America ? No one cares.

    Also look at the Middle weight devision and Super middle weight , two devision that where prided in the US . Now ? out side of triple G there are very few skilled middle weights in the US, if any at all, that even come close to rivaling him. Which is SAD!
     
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  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali Vs. Arreola was HBO's highest rated fight of the entire year!!!!!!! HBO does not like EPIX showing Klitschko fights, but they can't do anything about it.
     
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  9. idealista

    idealista Active Member Full Member

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    If Rigo was Mexican, he'd be a ****ing star. They won't make PPV on Cuba though.
     
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  10. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those guys, Holyfield,Bowe,Tyson,Lewis,Tua,Ike etc..they were all killers when you go from killers to people who are out of shape or don't have that killer mind/style in the ring- they only care about looking good and the money..they are not killers, that saidthe champions better be a killer..theyre not,Vitali was. you're right,no ones to blame for the HW divison but itself
     
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  11. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're blaming HBO for bowing to the lowest common denominator?

    That's a losing battle, and a futile waste of time.

    They exist for ratings, not to educate the public. OK, I get it, vent all you want, but don't expect anything to change.



    All hail, Rios-Alvarado! :mad:
     
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  12. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reminds me of when Breidis Prescott destroyed up and coming cash cow Amir Khan. Rather then being focused on he all but disappeared, in terms of media focus at least, until the storm had passed and Khan was again on the rise.

    Prescott never amounted to much as a result of bad promotion and matchmaking following his KO victory whilst Khan went on to become known as Chinny Chinny Bang Bang and a good way to earn quick cash from the bookies!
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's never good for the hard core fans like ourselves when a great fighter is not given the support of the TV networks. But if the ratings are not high enough to financially make airing the fights viable you can't blame them for pulling out, why would they want to throw away money, they are a business and are under the same financial restraints as any other business.

    If you want to blame anyone, blame the promoter of the fighter, it's his job to sell the fights or blame the fans themselves because it's them who really decide who will be on TV or not by watching or not watching the fights of fighters like Rigo.
     
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  14. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    rigo unfortunatley is fighting in the wrong era, if he fought 30 years ago with the skillset he has he would be considered a legend
     
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  15. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    maywaether has the skill set and he is the highest paid boxer. For years people have said floyd is boring yet they tune in because he is sooo skilled it is undeniable. The HW division sucks in the US because there are not any great HW fighters right now. The 2 best American Heavy weights are who? Stiverne and Thompson?
     
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