HBO makes the right call on the Kovalev vs. Pascal II co-feature

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There is a pair of 10-rounders in chief support for the unified (IBF, WBA & WBO) light heavyweight championship rematch in Québec on January 30th.

    Fortunately, the vastly superior of these will be aired on HBO.

    Dmitry Mikhaylenko vs. Karim Mayfield is for the USBA welterweight title, making it nominally less important than Renan St-Juste vs. Francis Lafrenière for the IBF middleweight International title - but is far worthier of being televised.

    First off, neither St-Juste nor Lafrenière are rated top 15 at 160lb by the IBF. Mayfield isn't ranked at 147lb, either, but Mikhaylenko is #13. (which may or may not shift down a spot with Sammy Vasquez recently beating Aron Martinez in a WBC semifinal eliminator; Martinez is unrated by the IBF despite recently upsetting former IBF welterweight champ Devon Alexander)

    Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield will produce a viable contender for a world title (likely the Mechanic) even if the hardware at stake in Québec is on paper less of a springboard itself than an International belt. St-Juste vs. Lafrenière is simply a way to pad seats at the Bell Center with some local draws vying for a prize neither deserves, and which neither has a prayer of parlaying into a big fight. St-Juste is 43 years old and was stopped in his last two steps up by Anthony Dirrell and faded Allan Green. Lafrenière has a handful of losses and draws to regional level opponents I've never even heard of, and his best result is a TKO8 over Ghanaian journeyman Mohammed Akrong (which is a result St-Juste also has on his ledger, and is his 4th or 5th best) - wiped out in a minute flat by Rocky Fielding. :!:

    Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield also, while it has a clear favorite, promises to be far more competitive. Lafrenière is sixteen years the junior of St-Juste but not in his league. I could understand this being given 2nd billing for the benefit of the Québécois faithful, but it should by no means be given TV priority over Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield as that is proper HBO BAD or PBC main event material on its own.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Even making this a triple-header would be a mistake. With all due respect to St-Juste and Lafrenière, an international audience doesn't want to see them.

    Hopefully it really is further down the running order (that is, over before HBO WCB goes on the air) instead of slotted in between, meaning there will be a gap in live boxing coverage after Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield with HBO showing tons of clips and punditry gab during the wait for Kovalev and Pascal ring walks as the middleweight contest is going on.
     
  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post IB.

    How is St Juste gonna adapt to life at 160 when he's been campaigning at 168 since I remember, and wasnt exactly a SMALL SMW.

    Gonna go with no namer to stop him cold, early.

    As for Mikhaylenko....nice coming out party for him.

    Mayfields got some pop, but is limited delivering it. Kindof like Holt except without the iron chin of his early days.

    Mik by KO, rds 7/8.

    Should set up the night nicely for a Sergey KO5 and the Canadian fans can go home drunk and happy witnessing 2 monstrous KOs and a systematic beatdown.:good

    Makes for good tv too.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't think there was ever a doubt the Mikhaylenko would make TV, and it would have shocked the hell out of me...literally.... had Renan St-Juste vs. Francis Lafrenière made it to TV.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, per Twitter some people are calling St-Juste vs. Lafrenière a "long-awaited showdown" - maybe some beef there, with Lafrenière calling him out? Not sure. Of interest to people in Montreal, probably, but not the rest of us. Even if there was an upset I'd hate to see this make it onscreen at the expense of the welterweights.

    Speaking of which - yeah, Mayfield is like a poor man's, weaker Shawn Porter. Mikhaylenko should be able to carefully time and counter his rushes and rack up loads of points using his length & reach. Probably no stoppage, though.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    We've seen odder choices, and cards in Canada in particular have been known to push the homers up the running order even when it makes little sense.
     
  7. CST80

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    No one gives a s*** but the Québécois. Especially HBO they passed on Lemieux-N'Dam for God sakes.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    I actually like Renan, and if he were maybe in a Demers rematch I'd say there was some argument for weighing it against Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield, but this is just a domestic club fighter.

    ...and he isn't super TV friendly with his style, despite having some one-punch KO power.

    Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield, even though Dmitry is still largely unknown and Karim having been written off after peaking as just an "ESPN2 FNF" tier fringe contender, is a classic technician vs. swarmer match-up, and honestly despite the rankings of any individual org they are probably both top fifteen welters.
     
  9. CST80

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    Sorry I didn't mean to belittle the thread its just that Mikhaylenko has already been showcased on HBO they had him headline the HBO Latino card with Johan Perez, ad to that they're chummy with Kathy so I have the feeling they're wanting to build him up as a possible star.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh you're right, he did make his debut on HBO already - Pascal vs. Kovalev I, actually.

    I'd forgotten that, and just assumed his only exposure to American TV fans was on that NBC Sports undercard when he beat Ronald Cruz. I know he got screwed on the Kovalev vs. Caparello HBO card when he fought Sechew Powell and didn't make it on TV since they did a split-site broadcast with Rios vs. Chaves in Las Vegas.
     
  11. CST80

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    No the undercard of Kovalev-Pascal wasn't televised either, that was the De la Paz match IIRC, the Perez match was a stand alone card that he headlined on HBO Latino. So I think they're pretty high on him.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    What's the story of St-Juste vs. Lafrenière, why is that "long-awaited"? Were they amateur rivals? Some kind of beef outside the ring? (like Malignaggi and Broner, over a girl)

    Seems they've been operating at different levels their entire pro careers, so I'm not sure why there ever would have been local demand for it.
     
  13. killerD

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    I thought curtis stevens was supposed to be on the undercard?
     
  14. Doc Everlast

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    Man they could of put Andre Ward on this as the co feature. That would have been perfect. Andre should have been asking for this fight. That's another thing that makes me mad about Andre Ward! Why he never calls out another top fighter? Every time one of the YTBC channels when they ask Ward about Degale or these other guys at SMW and LHW, Andre Ward pretends like he doest know these people. He acts like he never seen or heard of them before. Guys like Degale, Badou Jack,Dirrell,Adonis. He brushes them off.
     
  15. technocrato

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    Everybody knows in French Quebec that St-Juste and the other guy are two local bums and to be honest nobody is really interested in that fight. And the "small town" media are talking about fights other than the local one. Yvon Michel talks alot about what is interesting in the boxing planet other than from the local fighters. He often talk about what there is not to talk about about Ward for instance.