HBO: Miguel Ángel Berchelt vs. Takashi Miura & Joe Smith Jr. vs. Sullivan Barrera RBR.

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Blizzy is completely brain dead. Who cares about what that mongoloid thinks? :lol:
     
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  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Floyd hasn't run in about 4 years, since Guerrero. He lays on the ropes, like an old fighter, and slides left or right 3 or 4 steps. Alternatively he comes to the middle of the ring and pivots, and holds and delays the action. His legs and stamina have been gone for years.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about Floyd for anyway? Because I insulted Berchelt? Look, I don't like Berchelt. I don't like his suspect chinned ass one bit. He got knocked out by a bigger man and it'll happen again because he has NO chin. I respect him as a fighter and champion, but I don't respect his whining and running in this fight. He did what he had to do.

    And as far as Floyd, you must be talking about the rematch. Yeah Floyd moved more, but you probably should've brought up the Pac fight. You'd have a better argument for running.
     
  4. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now that would be a great fight. Berchelt for the reasons you said I don't think can really threaten Lomachenko. He's not quite as cute as Sosa inside, and classic boxing on the outside would be made for Loma. But the speed and power of Davis, who doesn't have the skill and smarts of Loma, against the outside boxing, combo punching, and toughness of Berchelt... is so hard to say.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Just don't slag on and throw off on a fighter for running, many of the fighters you like tend to run. Berchelt wasn't running he was legit boxing Miura's ears off and using lateral movement a lot. Miura is probably a far more dangerous puncher at his weight that any of Floyd's recent opponents, and yeah he ran against Pac as well, but I didn't want to get those wackjob Pac fanboys involved.:lol:
     
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  6. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We simply haven't seen Tank's chin, toughness, and defence tested. We know Berchelt can handle the incoming.
     
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  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You slag off on fighters all of the time just like we do at times. You have to able to take what you dish out. I don't like Berchelt. I don't like complainers. He complained and ran, and Floyd is undefeated. And who has Miura beaten with his punch for you to make a broad statement like that?
     
  8. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    I think would be a decent fight Beterbiev v Barrera, a step up in competition and a good test for Beterbiev with Barrera having beat the better opposition imo.
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd stayed in front of Canelo quite a bit; if you wanna use an example of Floyd consistently on the move, I'd say use Guerrero as he was circling a lot more in that fight than against Alvarez.

    Berchelt boxed well, and there were points against Miura when it could be called a masterclass. But there were a couple of points when he let himself get caught with shots that he could have avoided, and a couple of other times where he lost shape and simply was content to...retreat tactically. So, it wasn't a consistent masterclass. Linares-Crolla II this wasn't.

    Loma wipes Berchelt out, and based on what I saw, I think Davis probably takes him out, too.
     
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  10. rorschach51

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    I believe Berchelt would have a shot against Loma & beats Davis and Corrales.
     
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  11. BlizzyBlizz

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    I probably went too far criticizing Berchelt, but that rabbit punch business is something that I value. He would clinch then throw punches. I didn't like that, but the rule is keep your hands up at all times so I'm like it's a fight.

    But to take a break after being hit with a good body shot claiming rabbit punching and I didn't see that kinda ticked me off. The announcers even talked about it too long lol. CST you my dude. We argue and both keep it G in the end. One of the more then few, but few lol I respect. You grew on me lol.

    Anyway, Berchelt/Davis for the right to fight Loma. Loma Salido. I have Loma and Davis in the final.
     
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  12. Farmboxer

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    Berchelt won, but I didn't like the fake crap he did after the light punch behind the head, hell, SOB Ward does that all the time, got away with hitting Kovalev in the testicles three times so his personal referee Weeks would stop the fight, when he should have been disqualified.

    Smith is a very strong, powerful puncher, almost stopped Barrera in the 1st round, good thing it was at the end of the round, but Smith can't box at all, he has no experience...............
     
  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    The nerve of this ******* to criticize him for that when he's a fan of some of the dirtiest fighters ever. As usual, Nallege/Blizzy/Mr. Pibb, etc., being an idiot.

    Never heard this mfer say a word about Hopkins or Ward being dirty or running (Floyd), clinching, etc, but he has the nerve to talk about another fighter when they do that at a massively lower level.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    To be honest I just wanted to point out an inconsistency, my mind was so shot from doing 10 consecutive hours of RBR's I couldn't even remember who Floyd has fought. Like the Three Stooges, I tried to think but nothing happens.:lol:

    As far as Lona goes, yeah I agree, he probably beats Berchelt, but can the Tank hype get reeled in a little, he beat Pedraza and Walsh so what, I'd pick Berchelt, Miura, Vargas and Salido to beat both of them. That doesn't prove anything to me, and would Tank's whiskers come close to holding up against guys who can bang like those guys? He went 7 rounds with Pedraza, the other guys have chins that are as good if not better than his, but unlike them they all hit harder, Gervonta won't be walking through their punches without fear of what's coming back at him. The one time Pedraza started unloading the kid started crumbling, its too soon to rank him even in the Top 5 of the division, he's proven nothing but that he's better than a guy straining to make weight, and he's above British level, that is all.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You like Floyd, and he complains all the time, as does Ward. Do you like Badou Jack, he's got no chin either, yet he managed to go the distance and beat Dirrell, Bute, Groves and almost beat DeGale. **** happens sometimes, he took Miura's shots flush the kid has a great chin, the Florez shot was evidently an anomaly, and for the record Berchelt got up from that shot, but the ref waved it off, he wasn't KO'd cold.

    And what evidence do I have that Takashi Miura hits hard? Oh I don't know I've only seen like 12 or so of his matches. Takashi Uchiyama, Sergio Thompson and Francisco Vargas don't go down easily, he dropped them all three of them, he stopped Roman, Jardon, Diaz, Dib, none of them are that easy to stop. Trust me, he hits like a Mach truck.
     
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