HBO: Sergey Kovalev Vs. Nadjib Mohammedi & Jean Pascal Vs. Yunieski Gonzalez RBR

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  1. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look, the first thing I look for when sizing up an opponent is where they put their hands. What are their behaviors and is it a weakness or strength?

    Then the next step is, how do you expose those weaknesses.

    And while Kovalev's power has been saving his ass, one day, a guy is going to take advantage of Kovalev walking in with his chin straight up and down.
     
  2. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kov knows what he can get away with concerning each opponent, you underestimate him. He will not be one punch KO'd like you're concerned of about, he may lose but not for some colossal mistake that never had to be made.
     
  3. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stevenson can KO Kovalev because Kovalev has been sloppy defensively and has been relying on his emotions and his power to steam roll his opponents.
     
  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    :deal

    Mohammedi had no answer for Kovalev, Kovalev was not even putting in the effort.
     
  5. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Originality Barrera was the one but Pascal team declined the other Cuban is knocking on the door watch out.
     
  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    The problem is not that he's lowering his hands, the problems is that he doesnt do sh 1t to compensate that. You are totally right he's getting sloppy as h... and he will pay for that sooner or later.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He really needs to learn from Bob Foster....dude was destroying people who were overmatched at 175 because of his insane power and their inability to hurt him, but in the process, he developed some real bad habits that came back to bite him.
     
  8. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sloppy wtf? Some of you guys just dont understand boxing that well.
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    im not making excuses for him, it could be a legitimate flaw sure but it could also be exactly what i was suggesting. at a pro level actually no AT THE ELITE LEVEL, im sure kova knows to keep his hand up
     
  10. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stevenson literally only has that straight left hand. He doesn't even know how to hook off the jab.
     
  11. malko

    malko New Member Full Member

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    Piece:

    He kept his hands up fine for the first 90 seconds of the fight. After that (and, really, from the bell) Mohammedi was clearly countering. Now, at this stage, he does start setting his hands lower.

    Two reasons (one of which you brushed off, earlier, without any actual rebuttal):

    1) Kovalev goes to a lower guard when he's fishing for an opening consciously. He wants Mohammedi to throw, so that he can counter with the hook or the cross. You can see instances in the fight where he did use the high guard, but for the most part he was slipping punches, using his elbows and moving his head rather than absorbing shots in the guard. For all your warnings re: future knockouts, Mohammedi landed almost nothing. Additionally, this creates opportunities for really powerful counters, because often with these movements he's winding his hips/shoulders up, in effect.

    2) Kovalev was fighting tall and using his height advantage to the max. It's really difficult to fight tall with a high guard and maintain an offensive tempo. Rather, he'd generate pressure by beating Mohammedi to the jab, slip the return fire, and counter in turn.

    In short, I'm not convinced by your argument. Primarily, because it's clear Kovalev does this stuff consciously. Against a more accomplished puncher or counter puncher, he'd almost certainly adopt a more cautious style. Mohammedi, on the other hand, was happy to wait for an opening himself and let Kovalev dictate pace. Kovalev needed to entice him into opening up and taking the same risks Kovalev was taking.
     
  12. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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    Kovalev measured and r4ped that dirty muslim fraud.
     
  13. GrenadeHand

    GrenadeHand Active Member Full Member

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    well as long as he measured him first...
     
  14. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Makes me think of how Sanders got that brutal KD on Klits:admin
     
  15. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I will say that in this fight he did at times have his chin out on a platter; however, he was in control and had no fear of this guys power. I doubt he would take such risk with an elite prize fighter:deal