HBO show there dominance yet again

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Anther masterstroke from hbo snatching canelo from showtime

    HBO has now brought back Canelo on a long term deal along with previously getting Cotto back to HBO as well as Hopkins. They now have 3 of the top 4 PPV attractions in Pacquiao Canelo and Cotto. Showtime is left with duckweather as their top PPV attraction.

    The power move by Showtime lasted less than 2 years
    Delahoya has put a huge wrench in that plan and has now brought over several stars back to HBO.duckweaher is going to have to make that Pac fight happen. Cotto Vs Canelo would definitely harm Floyd's ppv Numbers...........

    bottom line if duckweather wants Cinco de Mayo... he'd have to agree to fight Pac:deal


    HBO's production when it comes to Boxing is on a different level compared to Showtime. The writing and production on 24/7 make All-Access look like a high school project. Even HBO's little features have quality and effort put into them.. Things like "2 Days" and those little stories they do about Buffer and Kenny Bayless are great. Lampley's Fight Game show is a decent boxing program, even though many disagree with him about things. He does do a good job of getting casuals spun up on what's going on in the sport though

    HBO's boxing package as a whole is just better. HBO uses boxing as kind of a real-life drama series like Game of Thrones. You dont need big time names for a show like GoT to be interesting. You just need characters and compelling story lines.
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Couple things.

    1 - HBO does have those 3 guys but only Canelo is the only one with the Contract. Cotto and Pac can go fight on Showtime whenever they want. as of right now they do have 3 out of 4.

    2- This will put pressure on Mayweather to make the Pac fight if he wants the date. if he doesnt want the date then theres no pressure to make the Pac fight from that prespective.

    3- as of you saying Showtime only has Floyd. What if Mayweather-Pacquiao gets signed, I'm almost 90% sure it will be on Showtime! Why u say? because Canelo will fight May 2nd no matter what now. so If Mayweather-Pac goes down it will be on Showtime which pac has fought before. so now that it sounds like u want to lick HBO from the neck down. if they get Mayweather-Pac which can happen for sure, there goes another2.5 3 mil buys. if they rematch, another 2.5 3 mil buys. THAT SMOKES HBO FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS, espcially with 2.2 buys they just got last year.

    4 - as of right now Showtime only has Mayweather has PPV but they have alot of young super stars. Cotto might have 3 more years left. pac only has 2. so HBO swooped the Canelo, but Thurman, Garcia, Broner can and most likely will all be superstars and will be on PV within the next 2 years, maybe even Garcia next year if he fights Mayweather. SO good for HBO and still good for SHowtime.
     
  3. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HBO boxing is a much higher quality product than Blowtime. Oscar would do well to get the rest of his fighters out of there.
     
  4. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i guess no mayweather vs canelo 2 for now, thank god.
     
  5. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    In regards to your first point yes you're correct but both pac and cotto have shown their loyalness to hbo so they are good as theirs.

    You're third point is interesting but I just don't see it being on showtime only it will have to be on both showtime and hbo its that big both parties want in on it they would compromise on it like they did on lewis and tyson fight the problem is not between showtime and hbo its duckweather that's the key thing.

    finally your last point is totally incorrect HBO snatched canelo who was showtimes big asset they were grooming him to be the next ppv star cut it how you like it but that's a big loss for showtime and the guys like broner,garcia have not shown they are ppv material as of yet
     
  6. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    canelo can't make weight....

    can't cut a ring to save his life....

    should have 3 losses....

    he's not a ppv star and has done nothing noteworthy to garner all this attention.

    his days are numbered.
     
  7. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Yeah the Mayweather-Pac thing is tricky. even if they co promote, Canelo and Cotto will not one to be an undercard fight. they'll probably try to do what happen a couple of years ago when there was same dates, same city but different net works with Canelo-Lopez and Chavez-martinez. if they tried to do that again it would probably be like Mayweather-Pac at MGM, Cotto-Canelo at Thomas and Mack. but with Canelo getting the exclusive contract he wont be an undercard fight, even for mayweather-Pacquiao. So if they do Co Promote, looks like Showtime would show it. HBO can still get there cut but I highly doubt it will be main event at MGM, then a different Main event at Thomas mack or vice versa.

    Sounds awesome even talking about it!! :good

    As for Thurman,Garcia and Broner. yes we dont know but we do know there young, Garcia and Broner have a following, not Thurman yet, and they'll be around for 10-15 years. might help in the long run but Both Networks are happy where there at now. and who knows about Wider?? maybe hes a bum and wont be nothing. but if he beats Stiverene, which looks like Showtime for now. Then SHowtime will have the only HW champ. and THAT Could be even bigger then Canelo at some point.
     
  8. IsaL

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    De La Hoya a straight up G!

    This is his work, and his moves.

    Floyd dissed DLH in public and now DLH like a G will be taking back his boxing dates of 5 de Mayo and Sept. 16th....

    At best for Mayweather, he can keep 5 de Mayo but he will be forced to work with Arum for a Pacquiao showdown.

    Not looking good for Money.
     
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    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo already fought the toughest opponents at 154, no one else at 154 is doing anything to the Ginger, he's got that division on lock down. :deal

    CANELO VS COTTO MAY 2ND 2015!!!!! :ibutt:smoke
     
  10. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Great but I don't think duckweather has the guts to take the pac fight especially at this point he wants easy picking for his last fights
     
  11. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    I have threads way back predicting showtime will fail and it looks to be going that way
     
  12. detamour

    detamour Guest

    who was the skunt that ran when, floyd accepted his incredible 10 million dollar per pound weight penalty clause? FLOYD, ASKED FOR 1 DEMAND CORRECT?
     
  13. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny has a contract with HBO. HBO put up a lot of the money to get Manny to resign with TR.

    Cotto has a verbal agreement, same as with TR. He could technically be snatched.
     
  14. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One demand ? Wrong !!!

    Must sign with TMT first ? true or false ? :hi:
     
  15. detamour

    detamour Guest

    BRADLEY, MOSLEY, MARQUEZ. aLL HAD TO SIGN WITH ARUM RIGHT? TRUE OR FALSE!! STUDY YOUR HISTORY *******!!