HBO to Abraham: Step up to 168 and fight Miranda...

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  1. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    ...then take on the winner of Pavlik - Taylor.

    This is reported by a German newspaper, though AA wants to be undisputed champ at middleweight.
    So we could well see his first outing on HBO vs. Miranda at 168, then fighting Pavlik at 160 if he gets by Taylor.

    Or Taylor will fight Abraham at 168 if both are successful in their next respective bouts.
     
    Tom_Tocca, Aug 20, 2007
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  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't think Abraham goes for this, his promoter isn't exactly a known risk taker.
     
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  3. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Sauerland already wanted Miranda for last Saturday night being the mandatory but he lost via hard KO against Pavlik. He already had reserved a 20.000 people filling stadium for this event.
    I think Sauerland would take this chance if Miranda wins his October bout.
     
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  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant a fight against the Taylor-Pavlik winner. Abraham has of course already met Miranda, and now that Edison has been brutally KOed I'm sure Sauerland wouldn't object to a rematch.
     
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  5. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    How can Miranda still be the IBF mandatory:

    1- He fought a WBC title eliminator.
    2- He got KO in his last fight.

    It makes no sense.
     
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  6. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    HBO isn't thinking about mandatories. They want the Miranda/Abraham fight at 168 because Miranda won't fight at 160 anymore, and it would give AA a chance to showcase his skills in advance of a showdown against the winner of Taylor/Pavlik.

    Given that there's not much else at 160, I think he ought to do it. HBO money is where it's at, and he has a style that American fans (and thus HBO) will like.

    The Miranda fight should be easier than last time.
     
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  7. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    This info hails back to the time before Miranda fought Pavlik...he was the IBF mandaory at this ime, hus he would have been in Pavlik's place now and had rather fought Taylor...
     
    Tom_Tocca, Aug 20, 2007
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  8. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how well he carries power into 168. Miranda will be a tad more difficult to hold off at 168 for him - AA is not a big MW.
     
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  9. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    True, but Miranda strikes me as an "I'm invincible" kind of fighter, and those guys (Tyson, Lacy, Mugabi, Vargas, et al) never seem the same after they get KOd. Hope I'm wrong, though. I like Edison.
     
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  10. dwilson

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    AA is a smallish middle so a step up to 168 would be stupid. I still think he has the beating of Miranda but surely there must be some other american middle out there for HBO to showcase his talent against? If not then the point in fighting over there is of little importance to him.
     
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  11. JC2006

    JC2006 Active Member Full Member

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    Miranda has done NOTHING to warrant a title shot at Abraham.
     
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  12. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    The figh would be at 168 where Abraham isn't holding a belt at all...
     
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  13. JC2006

    JC2006 Active Member Full Member

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    True. Still though... I'd rather see Abraham take on the winner of Taylor/Pavlik first.
     
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  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I'd rather see Abraham vs. the winner of Taylor/Pavlik
     
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  15. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Me too, but HBO wants to introduce/test him first before warranting a fight vs. their top-guy...
     
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