HBO to Abraham: Step up to 168 and fight Miranda...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tom_Tocca, Aug 20, 2007.


  1. Chillman

    Chillman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wouldn't a title fight against either the winner of Mora - Ouma or vs Giovanni Lorenzo be good enough for HBO Boxing After Dark?
     
  2. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    I already brought this up and yes, a fight vs. Mora would be the most clever thing to do for HBO, Abraham and Mora (of course, if he beats Ouma Sep.15).
    It would be big in Cali, especially at Staple Center, LA - 20.000 people cheering them...
     
  3. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    HBO signed Miranda and he got dominated in his first fight.

    They are trying to re-coop some money.
     
  4. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Axe,my friend,I totally disagree with you on this one!

    Abraham's promoter is Sauerland who is also Povetkin's promoter(who faced Larry Donald in his 13th pro fight) and Huck's promoter(who faced top ten fighter Tokarev in his 19th pro fight),and Janik's promoter(who faced El Hadak in his 5th pro fight),and Baysangurov's promoter(who faced Rubio in his 13th pro fight),and ........... .
     
  5. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    HBO signed Miranda AFTER he got dominated by Abraham...

    But there are still a lot of people who maintain that Miranda won that fight (because Randy Neumann basically cheated and gave Abraham extended time to recouperate after getting his jaw broken rather than declaring him unable to continue and calling a TKO). Still, I see no reason why the Miranda rematch would be any different than Klit-Brewster II. Abraham seems to be continuing to improve, while Miranda has stagnated and possibly even regressed; PLUS, Abraham solved Miranda relatively early in the fight, and should be able to take the early rounds this time as well.

    Odo - I don't think that facing a top 10 fighter in your 19th fight when you have a solid amateur background is particularly risky. That's about on par with most fighters with a decent amateur background. None of those examples were particularly risky, just fairly aggressive. If he'd put in Povetkin against a veteran puncher, THAT would have been risky. Larry Donald wasn't, although it is indeed impressive that he can beat a fighter of Donald's caliber this early in his career.
     
  6. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what??? AA step UP to 168 for that ****** miranda??

    if miranda wants a shot at abraham, tell him to get his ass down to 160!!!

    HBO my ass.
     
  7. Artani

    Artani Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are right Tom . But i think that Sturm was one fight in the USA when he fights Oscar De La Hoya and he is know for fans there. I still think that Sturmis one stap away to Abraham. AA was knows in this last fight and with Miranda for world boxing scene. For Sturm know more i think, Abraham is still unknows for americans.

    It will be good to see this match betwen them and to knows who is best middleweight from Europe.
     
  8. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    As tobkhan said before, Huck had just little experience as an amateur - but - was already a kickbox-worldchampion just after his 18th birthday...he is just one of the thoughest and strongest cruiserweights out there...
     
  9. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    If he will hang around at CW and keep winning for that long amount of time he will for sure be the undisputed CW champion - though I think he will move up in the next 2 years...
     
  10. C Money

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    Going to 168 to get a shot at the 60 champ doesnt make sense.

    That's over manipulation by HBO. ****, let Abraham fight a Karmazin, Spinks, Ouma vs Mora winner, Sturm, or Quartey.

    If Miranda's at 68 and cant make 60, that's HIS PROBLEM.
     
  11. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    Moving up to 168 to fight a guy he already beat does nothing for AA
     
  12. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    It gets him a payday, plus a shot at future, even bigger paydays.

    I would understand if he didn't want to do it, but HBO's reasoning on this also makes sense. But perhaps the Mora/Ouma winner will become palatable for 2008, which I'm sure most of us would prefer.
     
  13. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    I just wanted to ask you again about Mora if he would be victorious vs. Ouma...this fight would be a great chance for both fighters and as I mentioned before, Cali has the biggest Armenian community outside of Armenia, so it should make a great venue there (filling the Staple Center should be no problem).
     
  14. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik vs Abraham to unify at 160 and Taylor vs Miranda at 168. Taylor and Miranda have already exchanged words before their last fights.
     
  15. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldnt mind seeing a rematch, nut AA can fight someone descent @160 and Miranda can get a good 68 fighter