HBO, Unfair To Vitali And Vlad

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad Chagaev did better numbers in Europe, russia Etc. Dont know about the US numbers for the Vitali/Gomez fight
     
  2. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so who should he fight?

    Last 9 fights:
    Peter... considered 1 of the top at the time & Undefeated
    Byrd... Was Current IBF champ hadnt lost in 4 years
    Brock..IBF MAND! Undefeated
    Brewster. Former Champ..avenge a loss
    Austin...IBF MAND!
    Iggy. Current WBO Champ and Undefeated
    Thompson...WBO MAND
    Rahamn..Former champ, last minute replacement for Povetkin
    Chagaev...WBA Champ...Ring #3 Undefeated

    5 of last 9 were current or former champs
    4 of last 9 undefeated

    I think he has fought the top guys. Dont fault wlad for shitty MANDS and last minute replacements:deal
     
  3. tysonlewisbook

    tysonlewisbook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad is not scared of Haye and Vitali is not stepping in to save Wlad from Haye. ALso Wlad is the one who pushed for months by sending and resending the contract for Haye who wouldn't sign. Then when he did sign, he then goes and pulls out with a faked injury three weeks before without providing any evidence, just his worhtless word. It was faked.

    But it's understandable how someone would believe all this nonsense if they didn't appreciate or follow HWT boxing. Only someone with a flyweight understanding of the situation would believe and spread such drivel.
     
  4. CHEF

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    Haye pulls out of the fight and needs 8 weeks to heal and you have the balls to say "Wlad didnt want to fight Haye".... Even Haye himself said he didnt blame Wlad for moving on and he said that he (haye) would have done the same thing.

    When it was reported to be a 3 week delay, Wlad was going to wait... but 2 months... I dont know ANY boxer that would stop there training to wait 2 months.... The date, arena, and TV contracts were set and done... not easy to wait 2 months:deal
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its also easy to say we can fight next...I didnt have a problem with Wlad taking a replacment fight what I have a problem with is Wlad saying that NOW Haye has to get in line. Whats the problem with Wlad fighting Haye next???
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is scared to engage fighters...Secondly why do you need to send proof that he was hurt??? You cats seem to be stuck on that for some reason as if it makes a difference...Fake or not Haye still wants to fight and Wlad dont. The reason that haye didnt sign was because of money not because he was scared, if he was scared to fight he would not have followed Wlad around pulling his ***** card every chance he got.

    Its real simple, Haye says he was hurt, Wlad said that he couldnt wait to fight him so he could shut his mouth..One guy is still calling for the fight one guy isnt. Not that hard to do the math on that one.:good
     
  7. CHEF

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    Wlad has Mands. Wlad would have to drop a belt to fight Haye. What has haye done for Wlad to even consider that.
    This year IBF mand
    Start of 2010 WBO Mand

    Maybe Mid 2010 for Haye if Haye doesnt get KO'd first
     
  8. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Walked right into it...Thus the reason that Vitali has shown interest in fighting Haye. Haye will likely be Wlads number one contender for the WBO if someone dont beat him. Enter big brother, like I said coming to the rescue.

    Look man I dont think that Haye can beat Wlad, but Haye will do is fight, I think that he will fight wlad and force him to fight in a manner that he dont like to fight which is way Wlad dont fight that type of fighters. and every time he does he gets in trouble...Even TOS had Wlad in trouble and Haye is a better fighter then him.. Mandotories by ass. BTW Wlad was due a mandated fight for the ibf in April of this year what happened.
     
  9. CHEF

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    I walked right into What?.... your pure speculation! You read WAY to much into things. Vitali Haye is something Haye wanted and asked about to Klitschko managers after he had to pull out the fight with Wlad. Vitali wants a big fight and Haye would be that. It has nothing to do with big bro doing anything for Wlad... actually your thoughts on that are kinda funny:yep
     
  10. CHEF

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    WRONG. He was to fight Povetkin last year then Povetkin pulled out and Wlad fought Rahamn who became the Mand thus giving Wlad another 11 months before another IBF mand.... that makes it sept oct Never was April
     
  11. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haye has done NOTHING to earn a shot. He has shown nothing except that he can struggle against decent crusiers and shopworn heavies. He has no ranking to offer.

    A chin that is tested by the likes of Mormeck and Barret has no business taking punches from Wlad Klitschko. Nor is there any indicatiuon that his power is going to carry against a top ten heavy, much less a fighter like Wlad who is on his way to ATG status.

    Neither Wlad nor Vitali fear him. In fact, I would bet that there are a lot of heavies out there who would love to get in the ring with him and steal his hype. Chagaev would have beaten him.

    Wlad will fight guys who have earned it, like Povetkin and the winner of Dimentrenko-Chambers.
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one said Haye earned anything, but did Rahman??? How did he do that??? By losing to Toney??? Please go somewhere with that bull.

    You Klit fans are funny. Not only is it the fight that everyone wants to see at heavyweight, but once again Haye is the kind of fighter that Wlad has had problems with in the past. You can make all the excuses in the world but you wont come up with a good one. Funny thing is Wlad fans were crying that crap right from the start. haye didnt earn a shot, WHO CARES its the only fight at heavyweight that anyone wants to see.
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We will see how funny they are when vitali fights haye:hey

    Then I will be right here saying I told that VK would fight and beat haye, to get him out of the way so Wlad didnt have to fight him. cuz that is what is going to happen..Mark it down...And when it does you guys will somehow think that it excuses Wlad for not fighting the guy that has talked so much crap about him, the guy that he claimed he couldnt wait to fight so he could shut his big mouth. We have seen it all before, the follow the same pattern. Wlad seems to get out of fighting the biggest threats to him or delaying it in the case of Brewster until someone eles has beat him. I dont care what you say Wlad should have wanted to fight Sanders, and Brewster right away but he didnt, now all we get is "OH he wanted to fight, but they did" Bull, Why not want to fight a guy that you knocked out for a huge payday:huh
     
  14. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Wlad wanted to fight but Haye pulled out. ;)

    "Wlad should have wanted to fight Sanders, and Brewster right away"
    HE wanted, but Sanders and Brewster didn“t ;)
     
  15. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good