HBO, Unfair To Vitali And Vlad

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  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is very surprising to see that you have changed your mind of first Toney vs. Peter fight.

    Before Vitali actually fought Peter, you said multiple times that Peter was beaten by a former middleweight and he wouldn’t have a change against Vitali because of that.

    Here is one of your postes at the time.


     
  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, you know how it goes...laughable clumsy bum before they fight a Klitschko, godlike granite-fisted warrior when they lose to a Klitschko.
     
  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True :rofl
     
  4. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rahman did not lost the second fight. It was declared a TKO victory for Toney only because Goosen Tutor Promotion promoted the event. It was a shameful moment. No wonder that it raised a lot of critism afterwards. Later it was corrected to a NC as it should have been in the first place.

    In regard of the way fight went, Toney lost clearly the first round, did better in the second yet he could not win it and then came the defining moment in the beginning of the third round. Toney headbutted Rahman. It opened a nasty cut. Afterwards, Toney managed to win a round. The referee stopped the fight following the advise of the ringside physician.

    So let's stop hallucinating about this fight. The first fight went 12 rounds and could be a better example.
     
  5. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah whatever.
    Everyone knows Rahman quit. Only people with some agendas like Klitchko fans (making Waldo’s victory look greater) or Toney haters deny it.
    Those same Wlad fans had very different opinion how that fight went, when Haye was about to fight Rahman.

    Also Toney won the second round first one could have gone either way.
     
  6. Ivo

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    Wladimir's been the best heavyweight for the last few years. Wladmir's been fighting the best opponents. His victories are great enough. He keeps knocking them out. Those KOs speak for themselves with or or without my words for Rahman.
     
  7. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep Wladimir has risen to be a true champion. I would have never believed he could do it couple of years ago.
    His dominating performance against Chagaev was truly a great victory.


    Still I think that it was pretty obvious quit job in a part of Rahman, who would have been knocked out in next couple of rounds.
    Major belt organization seemed to agree with me, judging by how Toney rised above Rahman in WBC and WBO rankings after that match.