HBO wants Bute vs. Pavlik in 2010. Bute destroys Pavlik IMO (poll)

I am only being a hypocrite in response to your unwarranted hypocrisy!

Yes, I did say Hopkins would beat Pavlik. I didn't actually write Pavlik off because of it. I had no problem with you until you really went nuts recently!

 

I never said Pavlik would win. This is probably a 60-70/40-30 fight in favour of Bute. But if you think that he'll will just walk all over KP and finish him in the first few rounds, then you probably shouldn't have eaten those mushrooms.

Whatever you say, Pavlik is certainly a much better fighter than Andrade, and Andrade pushed Bute through 12 hard rounds in their first fight and Bute looked seriously shop-worn late. Pavlik can apply even more pressure than Andrade, and doesn't make half the technical mistakes. Andrade gets out of position very easily, and throws quite a lot of wild punches that leave him open for return fire. Pavlik comes in behind the jab, and sets his shots up carefully and deliberately. Only a very clumsy fighter would have walked onto the left hook Andrade did, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Pavlik isn't that fighter.

Somebody who can apply consistent, disciplined pressure like that for 12 rounds will give Bute a competitive fight at the least.

 

Pavlik doesn't want anything to do with Bute. Bute KOs Pavlik in 7.

 

It is not just Andrade's pressure that gives problems to Bute, but also the fact that he continues to go forward even if you hit him with a 4 shot combo. Pavlik goes back when he gets hit so even if he's very good to put pressure and to cut the ring, i think Bute would be able to cope with Pavlik.

 

Easy fight for Bute...by K.O.

 

you have no idea where i live or who i am and believe me it is no trailer or has it ever been

 

i didnt vote

gotta see how pav is when he finally gets back in there

 

well...if he has a legit crack at a 100% kelly and the recognized mw championship for a boatload of money...he may change his mind. we'll see i guess

 

As soon as Pavlik won his titles he started talking about unifying the division. Before he could move forward with that he had to give JT a rematch, and then Team Pavlik and Bob Arum made a huge mistake by allowing Slappy Joe to become a big distraction. Slappy called Kelly out about 800 times, but in the end he refused to fight, and Pav's career has suffered terribley ever since.

I still think KP should go for his original goal and unify the division. Afterward beat the **** out of the top five, ruin all the smaller men who have the guts to move up, and everytime some new young hotshot appears on the horizon, knock that mother****er out too.

Traditionally and historically middleweight has been the second most prestigious division in boxing, and I think KP could probably rule over it for the rest of his career. Right now, 160 is not very strong or exciting, but that can change in a fairly short amount of time. It is also true that Hopkins and Haglar did not rule over particularly strong divisions. That's why their best wins were over smaller men who moved up. KP can take the same approach and end up with a simlar legacy and career earnings, and Hops and Haglar certainly did alright.

 

If he does that then he will spend the rest of his career fighting on Top Rank PPV's at best.