HBO's TALE of the TAPE: OSCAR vs. PAC

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  1. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :good

    My point is don't always eat what HBO is feeding you... :deal
     
  2. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    True, even sometimes when I watch boxing I rather have it mute than listen to Merchant and his co.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    :-( Well... there goes being civil.:lol:

    Oscar has NEVER weighed that much for a fight. The only fight in which he actually weighed over 160 was his fight against Sturm... and we saw how he looked in that one.

    Oscar NEVER weighed in those ranges, even for his fights at 154. Oscar usually isn't bothered with pre fight weigh ins, however the last time that he actually did one before the Pac fight, was in his last fight against Mosley. Oscar weighed in at 154... and then on fight night Oscar weighed in on the unofficial scales at 158. That's only a gain of 4 pounds, and nowhere near the numbers that you just made up.

    You guys act as if the media hasn't been following Oscar around for months, filming his weigh ins and weight outs from training... and documenting that he was already at the 147 pound weight limit. When a guy is on target weight for that long, he isn't going to rocket up after the weigh ins. The only people who rocket up in weight, are those who dehydrated themselves within the last day or two leading up to the weigh ins, who then rehydrate water weight back on directly afterwards. Oscar was at 147 a month before the fight. That isn't water weight... which is why he wouldn't be putting any water weight back on after the weigh in.

    Rather than just making up a bunch of stats that don't even exist... why not just stop acting like there is this cosmic Oscar De La Hoya size conspiracy going on, in which the giant man's outrageous size is being shrunk by way of "tale of the tape" molestation right before our very eyes?
     
  4. Radar

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Relax Widdow. Oscar doesn't really need your 24/7 adoration you know. He's gonna be just fine without all that man love cluttering up his email and mailbox. How you didn't get served with a restraining order long ago is anyone's guess. :yep
     
  5. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much did Golden Girl weigh for the STRUM fight? "158"? :blood

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  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    therefore... based on your statement Oscar was not actually weight drained during the fight. :deal
     
  7. Polymath

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    There are different ways of 'making weight'.

    Deydrating/rehydrating the day of the weigh in is how fighters end up as 160lb welterweights.

    DLH could still be weight drained if he doesn't dehyrade, by virtue of his body just reacting badly to getting down to a weight it hadn't been to for years in his mid 30's.
     
  8. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    so therefore Oscar was already weak a month before the fight? :huh
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not? :huh
     
  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    If Oscar was that weak with all the sparring and training he's going through he wouldn't have been able to get in the ring at the day of the fight. :lol:
     
  11. Breakdown

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  12. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, I think you're thinking of dehydration 'draining' -its not the only way a fighter can be drained.

    I'll give you another example; Riddick Bowe for the Golota fights was 'drained' because he ballooned so much in weight between fights; he wasn't striving to 'make weight' by cutting water, he'd just lost a lot of weight.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I think this is getting pointless. Well... I guess it was pointless from the beginning.
     
  14. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    that's another thing though... based on widdow's post oscar already made weight a month before which means he had already adjusted to it before the actual fight. Oscar actually said when he was interviewed that he felt weak at first but then after he adjusted he felt strong and fast.
     
  15. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Your previous post actually made it interesting. :D