"He fought De La Hoya when he was still in his prime."

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Iron Mike, Nov 26, 2010.


  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Oscar claims he could have stopped Mayorga in the 1st round, but he let it go a few rounds to punish him!
     
  2. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike Active Member Full Member

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    I believe him. He wanted to make Mayorga suffer like he deserved too.
     
  3. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    I would post a picture of a gorgeous 36c titties picture I took last night for your prize but I don't want this to end up in the lounge. :lol:

    Good job though
     
  4. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll never forget Mayweather Sr. in the corner...."Look man, you can knock this son of a ***** out right now!"
     
  5. horst

    horst Guest

    Neither Pac nor Floyd fought Oscar when he was anywhere close to his prime.

    Pac won every minute of every round against him before Oscar submitted, whereas Oscar took Floyd to an SD. Floyd fought him at a better weight for Oscar though.

    It's a toss of a coin for which win was more impressive. Personally I go with Pac because I think Oscar could easily have got a draw that night with PBF, I've seen far worse decisions in my time.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Floyd isn't in his prime anymore either.

    Even with shutting out Shane, look how awful Shane looked with Mora.

    Floyd's prime was probably right around the time he fought Oscar, maybe the Hatton fight.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    If Oscar could restart his entire career and stick with one trainer, who should he stick with? Robert Alcazar, Jesus "The Professor" Rivero, Emmanuel Steward, Floyd Joy Sr, or fred roach?:think
     
  8. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike Active Member Full Member

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    I don't really count Pac's win as credible tbh. It was still very impressive to watch a little guy beat seven shades out of a big guy, but Oscar was pretty imaciated on the night.

    Pac has far more impressive win's than that anyway.
     
  9. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd fought a much better version of Oscar regardless of whether you think he was in his prime or not. Hell Pac outweighing Oscar tells you all you need to know. So many people thought Pac was in over his head because they expected Oscar to have a tremendous size advantage. Floyd's win was better, but Pac's performance was better.
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    The guy who beat up Zab Judah!
     
  11. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :nono

    Floyd wasnt strong enough back then to fight oscar the same way he did shane.
     
  12. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Steward seemed to want to use Oscar's general athleticism to win him fights. Looked great against David Kamau but couldn't get Hector Camacho out of there.

    Rivera tried to tone up his defence and I feel did a good job as Oscar only got knocked down against Pernell after teaming up with Rivera (that might have had something to do with him getting his legs tangled up as he was fighting southpaw when he got knocked down.) However that didn't stop Oscar's eye swelling against Miguel Angel Gonzalez.

    He had a good run with Floyd Sr. but he was just way to inactive for me.

    Roach didn't have a long enough run to be considered.

    As poor as Alcazar may have come across, he was in Oscar's camp all the way upto the first Shane fight, so I'm going to have to go with Robert I feel. Though Floyd Sr. did well to keep Oscar competitive when he didn't seem to have the interest necessary in the sport to stay at the elite level.
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Oscar always needed someone to give him a kick in the AZZ to get him going, that's how his father was with him! Joy Sr ended up being the guy able to give him a good kick in the AZZ!

    I think Steward is a good trainer for Oscar's style, but Oscar didn't like the relaxed environment of Steward's training camps! Too different from how he was raised.
     
  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar.
    I was too young for the Chavez crowd and grew up on the border. The Mexicans always shitted on the Chicanos. Oscar was chicano, he was one of us. People forget this now. For the youngsters Oscar was different, slicker than what we were used to and he grew up like us.
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    yeah maybe cos floyd fought de la hoya at 154, a much more natural weight class to him at the time. Pac fought him at 147, a weight division he hadn't fought in for 7 years.