He was never the same

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Matthew Saad Muhammad
     
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    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  3. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    ya, winky wright just got better
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Meldrick Taylor after Chavez
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Oscar DelaHoya was never the same after Ike Quartey landed that lefthook that put him down hard. Oscar couldn't be that devastating slugger he once had been at lightweight. He became tentative, played it safe a few too many times.
     
  6. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Foreman after Ali. He was broken mentally after Ali and he was never the same for the rest of his first career.
     
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  7. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Never the same after 1st losses

    Lloyd honeyghan

    Don Curry

    The above 2 looked like imposters before & during their 1st real losses ( Starling in Lloyd's case) and than never the same

    The below 2 fought as themselves got beat than were never the same

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  8. JonasLindberg

    JonasLindberg New Member Full Member

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    Just had a conversation where an Errol Spence fan insisted that Kell Brook was never the same after fighting Spence.

    I'd say it was more the GGG fight that ruined Brook. GGG beat Brook when he was undefeated, and damaged his eye socket. Spence fought Brook well, but Brook was actually beating Spence for the first 5 or 6 rounds.

    GGG ruined Brook, not Spence.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was the OP’s thesis, but I think it can work a lot of ways.

    For instance, Marvelous Marvin Hagler was never the same after his draw with Vito Antuofermo in his first attempt to win the title. While many thought he deserved to win, he left a lot on the table and enough doubt that it could be scored a draw — and he became a man possessed after that.

    So he was never the same after that draw.

    Jimmy Ellis was never the same after losing to Don Fulmer and George Benton, back-to-back, by split and majority decision at middleweight in late 1964. Ellis had two transition fights around light heavyweight the next year and by ‘66 had transformed into a heavyweight - tested the waters with a handful of fights in 1966 and started taking apart contenders and promising prospects thereafter on his way to laying claim to the WBA title.

    Mike Weaver was never the same after losing to Larry Holmes in one of the most action-packed heavyweight title fights. He was an unknown contender who had started to turn things around, but after establishing himself in the Holmes challenge he was a staple in the heavyweight scene — ranked in the top 10 in the Ring’s annual ratings for 7 of the next 8 years, including two years at No. 1 (behind Holmes, who was recognized as champ).
     
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  10. JonasLindberg

    JonasLindberg New Member Full Member

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    Truth, it does work in a lot of ways. Canelo was never the same after Mayweather embrassed him.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good call
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    As did Canelo.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd agree with that. The Golovkin bout left an impression that Brook would carry with him.

    I was at the Brook/Spence bout and there was a distinct sense that Brook was drifting out of the fight, some rounds before it actually came to an end.

    Spence fought a solid, methodical fight (as seems to be his way) to take the initiative and claim the title. Fair play to him, but he wasn't dishing out career-changing punishment, in my opinion.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Hilmer Kenty after losing to Sean O Grady on April 12 1981.
     
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  15. JonasLindberg

    JonasLindberg New Member Full Member

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    Mikey Garcia after Spence.

    Those punch stats were downright embarrassing.