He was never the same

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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  2. Rafaman

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    Mugabi took a hellacious beating vs Hagler. His durability was never the same after. You have to go back and watch his earlier fights vs Fletcher and Green. He was a straight up killer. It's like watching 2 different people to see how he changed.

    Antwun Echols. He's mentioned now as a litmus test for Bhops middleweight run. But this guy was an explosive puncher and tough as can be. He had limited defense and just came forward chin up in the air.
     
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    I was so impressed with Tim Witherspoon. Watching him nearly take the title from Holmes. I was sure this guy was the next big thing. His smooth cross-armed defense and power he was champ for sure. It never happened and he never looked the same like the Holmes night.
     
  4. fists of fury

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    Hopkins did a complete number on Trinidad.
     
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  5. Kamikaze

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    I think Moorer is one who was never the same after about the Cooper fight he grew a little wet footed and anxious in the ring when he realised he wasn't a big, strong or imposing man anymore which probably wasn't the best for someone who was not known for being a mental giant. However it did lead to long term success of course.
     
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  6. JonasLindberg

    JonasLindberg New Member Full Member

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    Forgot about Witherspoon. You're right. His drop off was very sudden.
     
  7. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    There is no need for that.Show some respect
     
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  8. Rafaman

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    Rocky Juarez was at one point a top 126 contender. He pushed Barrera to a Spilt decision and even got a rematch. He was a good puncher (always kinda plodding) and very durable. Most thought after Barrera he would be a mover and a shaker. He won only 5 fights in his next 9 years as a pro. He is barely ever mentioned in these forums.
     
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    Jeff Left Hook Lacy. Mostly seen as an opponent now in hindsight but he was the MAN at one point. He had that look, the shaved head, shredded abs, was an Olympian and was undefeated with a punch. Calzaghe beat him so badly, that plus a real bad shoulder injury and it was like watching a different fighter. Could never pull the trigger anymore and took lots of hits. After the Calzaghe loss he had 1 KO the rest of his career.
     
  10. Rafaman

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    I boxed with an Aussie fighter Wild Will Tomlinson. He actually challenged Francisco Vargas for the WBC 130 lb title. Will was a top Aussie talent with 80 amateur fights and had been asked to help Gamboa in sparring. Will prided himself on giving a good tough fight to fans. Vs Vargas he got smashed, probably one of the worst beatings I've seen. Vargas couldn't miss with his punches. I remember after the fight he posted a pic from his bed, his face looked like he had been assaulted by a baseball bat. The type of beating that takes years off your life. Will always had a decent chin but after that he barely got a decision against medicore opposition and one fight after that got Koed by the first punch in round 1 in front of his hometown fans and then retires right there. He went from a WBC title challenge to quitting because he had no punch resistance in just over 1 year.

    This is a quote from a paper when he formally retired in 2016:
    “I got caught the other night and it was a case of my body not being able to absorb the punishment anymore. Three or four years ago that punch wouldn’t have caused me to blink.
    “But as I’ve got older, it’s harder to make weight and it’s not a natural process to absorb that brutal punishment for ever. And my career was always going to end like that, if not that fight, then the next or the one after that.
     
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  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    These stand out to me ...

    Tito wrecked Vargas
    Tito wrecked David Reid
    Tito wrecked Mayorga
    Hagler wrecked Mugabi
    Weaver wrecked Tate
    Qwai wrecked Saad ( although Saad was clearly on the way down prior )
    Paq wrecked Hatton
    Hatton wrecked Tszyu
    Pavlik wrecked Taylor
    Pryor wrecked Arguello
    Rosario wrecked Bramble
    Rosario wrecked Camacho ( as a great fighter )
    Holmes wrecked Cooney
    Sanchez wrecked Lopez
    Johnson wrecked Burns ( a classic )
    Louis wrecked M. Baer
    Cerdan wrecked Zale


    Fun topic
     
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  12. Clinton

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    Truth. However Kell was a WELTERWEIGHT that had the balls to step up and fight close to prime GGG when none of the middleweights seemed to be willing to do so. Props to Kell.
     
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  13. JonasLindberg

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    I don't care if he won the next fight, AJ was NEVER THE SAME after Andy Ruiz Jr. TKOd him.

    He's now afraid to open up, fights scared, and tries to be too technical.
     
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  14. JonasLindberg

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    Also, Kell Brook was never the same after GGG broke his eye socket. I'm tired of people giving Spence more credit than he really deserves for beating Brook due to an injured eye socket.
     
  15. Cobra33

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    Donald Curry for sure .