Headbutt being ignored by the media?

The biggest factors to the outcome of the fight are the headbutt and the right hand. Clearly, without the headbutt Torres would not have been in that perfect position to be nailed by the right.

 

Yeah, and how do figure that?

 

Do you disagree?

 

Again, you keep mentioning how the (Im sorry, but CLEARLY UNINTENTIONAL) headbutt and its effect is being ignored by the seemingly American Biased media roll: This xenophobic bull**** is getting really old on here)...yet you AGAIN fail to mention that...

ONE - there was a tremendous body shot right before the headbutt.

TWO - this was an UNINTENTIONAL clash of heads, as you can see PLAIN AS ****ING DAY on the replay. Holt's head was coming upward toward the left after being slumped throwing the body shot, while Torres' head was coming down to the right after the body shot. Neither fighter initiated the butt, no idea why everyone crying foul about the butt is IGNORING THIS!!!

Here watch...

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Oh wait...I know why noone is mentioning it...because it doesnt support your biased opinion. I see now...

And THREE - After Torres was hurt by BOTH the body shot and the UNINTENTIONAL CLASH OF HEADS...he got finished off by a HUGE right hand.

Now, you can cry foul about things not being mentioned in a biased media....but it kinda falls on deaf ears when you fail to mention a hell of alot more because it doesnt support your biased opinion.

Sorry to be so harsh...but its the truth.

 

I disagree that anyone could come to a conclusion either way. That's what I disagree with. I have no idea if Holt did it intentionally or non-intentionally. Only he knows that.

 

It was a CLASH OF HEADS...not an unintentional or intentional headbutt. Go watch it again...its plain as day.

 

that head butt sent torres back into the rope, then the right hand finished him. it wasn't a left that started it, it was a head butt.lrts see if a 3rd fight happens...

 

I see you are calling it an "unintentional clash of heads." The intention part is the significant issue.

We don't know that.

 

You disagree that someone could not come to a conclusion from what they saw??? :?

This was not like Tyson diving in with his head against Holyfield. That I deem intentional.

Holt was throwing punches from the body to the head. His chin was where a good fighters chin should be, tucked into his chest. When two fighters are swinging in close like that a clash of heads can happen.

In this instance Torres was visibly shaken by it. He was also thumped to the body and iced by a huge right hand.

Head clashes happen frequently in boxing. If someone cannot judge from what they see how can an official make a ruling if a clash of heads is intentional or not.

Has one heard of the four round rule??? :deal

 

If one guys head is going ----> that way.

And at the same time anothers is going <---- this way.

And the fight is in close at that time...there heads are going to hit. Can you honestly tell me you can blame the guy moving ---> that more than the guy moving <----this way???

They both were moving their heads...they hit going in opposite directions. THAT my friend is the very definition of an unitentional clash of heads.

If its an intentional clash of heads...its called a headbutt. This CLEARLY was more the former...not the latter. As I said, go back and watch it again (and pay VERY close attention to their head movements) you will see what I mean. As I said, its plain as day.

 

Again, I can't be sure of intention and I wouldn't try and say so. However, that isn't at all what happend. ^ Holt was moving his head forward and he made contact with Torres.

 

thank you for youtubing that one...wow.

 

Have another look at it. Holt was bobbing from side to side and he launched forward with his head and made contact with Torres. Their heads did not collide in the fashion you are decribing. I can't say if it was intentional or unintentional.

 

If a fighter "launches forward with his head" then it's a head butt. You seem to be describing intent here.

Holt was coming forward throwing punches when their heads collided.

 

Holt launched forward, indeed he did. But he was throwing punches when he did so. That's exactly the problem and really my point to begin with - it's hard to say.