Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The era he fought in was a MUCH better one than Floyd is fighting in now, especially given the fact that Floyd doesn't fight all the best. Neither did Ray in reality, but he fought the much better fighters of his era than Floyd did, and much better fighters in general as well.
     
  2. G_RapPBF

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    No I never said Sugar Ray didnt have good technique, he obviously was one of the greatest. I said he didnt have to use any in some perhaps most of his fights. He's just walking up to and clubbering these guys.
     
  3. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl Yeah sure the era is better sure it is. And John Sullivan could beat Lennox Lewis.
     
  4. charlievint

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    I agree with that. Floyd never ducked anyone....he didn't. He went a route that most of the high paid athletes do today and follow the money.

    the diffrence between Ray and Floyd are that Ray is a true fighter...He faught not just for money but for the love of boxing and competition.

    Floyd fights for MONEY..."Hence his Money May" nick name and he has publicly said so himself.

    The mentality of boxers are very important....Floyd is just a great talent that is unmatch only to the great Ray robinson.

    Skill wise they are on the level....Talent the same but heart and determination hands down is for Ray and that is the biggest indication that your theroy is a Reach. It could happen that Floyd would beat a prime Ray Robinson....however that is about as likely as snow in the sahara Desert.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Exactly, he takes out the trash like it should be taken out, instead of countering off the ropes, waiting to figure out his B level opponent, and cruising to a late stoppage or Decision based on clean punching.
     
  6. TFFP

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    G-Rap is a ****ing clown.

    Hope this helps
     
  7. El Matador

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    It does. :hey
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You adapt to your opponent....Floyd wouldn't be teeing off like he did and throwing some looping punches like he did against Gatti if that were a DLH, Cotto or Marg.

    When a fighter is ultimately confident over his opponent and the skill levels are on a large disparity you'll see some amazing things take place.

    You saw alot of that from the Great Roy Jones Jr.:good
     
  9. Ramshall1

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    That bout sums it up. :good
     
  10. Ziggy Montana

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    Robinson's "era", that's quite a long stretch, like 25 years, twice longer than Mayweather's.

    Care to be a little more precise? Which segment of Robinson's era are you talking about?
     
  11. charlievint

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    Agian....boxing is a far different sport than any other sport out there.

    Not to mention that the weight classes are still in use today to help with keeping fighters even in terms of size advantages. So the "Bigger stronger" arguement is very sketchy with many holes.

    Plus MANY of the same training techniques and programs are still used by the "MORE ADVANCED" and BIGGER STRONGER boxers today. Aside from the nutrition programes conditioning and technique are very similar.
     
  12. charlievint

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    All those guys would be a champion today bro. You are clueless if you honestly believe that the greats from the golden era of boxing would be nothing in today era.

    Guys like Ali, Foreman and Norton would have also been top guys in the sport beating the GIANTs you feel are so physically superior.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    :lol: Sullivan fought in the late 1800's, Robinson fought in the 40's and 50's. Make simpler statements next time so you don't make such a fool of yourself.

    Gavilan was a better WW than any in the current division, not just the over-matched B level fighters Floyd's faced at WW. Robinson beat him twice. Along with Gavilan, he took on fighters from WW to MW the likes of Armstrong, LaMotta, Fullmer, Basilio, Graziano(say something about crudeness and I'll simply bring up Hatton, Baldomir, Gatti, Chavez, and most of Floyd's top wins), Zivic, Turpin, Olson, Angott, etc.

    Compare those wins to Floyd's resume and then shut the hell up.
     
  14. G_RapPBF

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    The trash that Robinson was taking out was D and E level. 30+ loss guys. Talking about guys that make Baldomir look like a p4p top 10.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    His prime years or thereabouts. From the early 40's to the mid to late 50's.