Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Lamotta wouldnt beat Mayweather, but by the same token fans today dont appreciate Lamotta enough. He was a beast in the ring, one of the greatest chins ever, big for his weight class, outweighing Robinson when they met.

    Imagine a chin better than Baldomir's, with more skill, better preasure, and you have something like Lamotta.
     
  2. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    from the footage i've seen of SRR he looks bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than PBF....PBF's technical ability maybe more advanced, but it won't be enough to overcome all the physical advantages SRR has over him....
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We've never seen Floyd knocked out either, so you can't reasonably be picking Robinson over him, as I see it.
     
  4. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd can't beat Robinson.

    Put Floyd against anyone at 130...Saddler, Arguello...but not against all time greats at 147.
     
  5. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please. Journeyman Alex Stewart beat the **** out of Foreman, he won the belt on a lucky shot. Foreman survived on his lumbering size. Not the point im trying to make and not nearly the generational gap between Floyd and Sugar ray.
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yet, Robinson hit much harder than Mayweather, and couldnt put the man down with his arsenal. But Mayweather two "pieces" him? Clarify.
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Do you any observational skills? Have you watched Robinson? What does Floyd do that gives him the win?

    Oh, and are you aware that Robinson's best years are not on film and that your watching an inferior version?
     
  8. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was 20 years ahead of his time in ability. He looks fast because he's fighting much slower fighters.
     
  9. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    Speaking of chins, have you seen PBF get hurt? didnt think so. So how can you say SRR had a better chin when PBF hasnt been tested.
     
  10. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you know what a 2 piece is? A 2 hit combination. He throws that double left jab at Floyd and he gets massacred simply as. He was totally off balance, Floyd would have caught him with a similar check hook that took out Hatton.

    Off balance leaning to his left. Thats just asking to be countered.
     
  11. DaveyScan

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    He looks fast even when the footage is in slow-motion. Robison was prolly the fastest guy above 126 I've ever seen on tape.
     
  12. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I told you, if Jake Lamotta can catch him with straight left leads, Floyd would be able to too. Unless you think Lamotta is as fast as Floyd Mayweather? Floyd would need to stay low, utilizing that head ducking motion he uses to avoid jabs, then catch Sugar Ray with straight hand leads whenever Sugar Ray is about to throw his flurry, which there is an opening. Sugar Ray for the most part just beat the **** out of guys who were massively inferior men to his athletic ability.
     
  13. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he looked incredibly fast, like Roy Jones at middleweight fast....he looked way too strong for PBF....
     
  14. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    The analogy doesn't work out, because according to the theory if Sugar Ray was fighting today then he'd also be stronger.

    This is why I think that you can never compare sportsmen of different generations.
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    it would be a victory for Mayweather if he ended the fight on is feet,forget about beating SRR.