Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    This fight would take place at 147lbs.

    SRR's best weight was 147lbs and he fought bigger punchers at higher weights than Floyd WILL EVER FIGHT.

    PBF's best weight is 130lbs and he has fought as high as 154lbs, one time.

    Perhaps P4P their chins are a wash (although I dont believe it for a second), but at 147lbs I have no doubt that SRR's was better.
     
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  2. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He looks fast because he was fighting alot of schmucks. I bet he didnt even train for most his fights, it just goes in there and throws some strong ass combinations and they are done. I mean seriously look at the competition he was facing. Do most of those guys look good to you for todays perspective?

    Put Sugar Ray Leonard in that generation, how fast would he look?
     
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  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    No I dont know, I live in California and we dont call it a two piece. We just say "combination", novel aint it?

    And Im sorry, Lamotta is "massacred" by PBF? It sounds like your talking knock out, and it sounds like you dont know your boxing and are merely a fanboy.

    Do you see that the most objective posters here on ESB are in your thread telling you that Floyd would lose?
     
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  4. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry you didnt understand the slang I used. I didnt say Lamotta would be massacred, I said if he tried that off balance left hand lead he'd it the canvas. He'd get up, but he would try that again I can tell you that.

    Most wont be objective talking about legends no matter who you. Im not talking from a fanboy perspective, im talking from an era perspective, that Sugar Ray fought against alot of guys who were athletically weaker then him and wouldnt amount to journeymen in the new millenium.

    Like I said, Floyd is probably the quickest first punch fighter in boxing, you know what having a quick first step is in basketball,well floyd has that in boxing. He beat Zab Judah to the punch. And if you watch Sugar Ray, maybe it was because he was so confident in the inferior talent he was facing, he would open himself up right before he threw a combination. And Floyd would exploit that, and then revert back into his impenetrable shell, and do it again and again.
     
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  5. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i got 20/20 vision, and the SRR i saw against the PBF against Hatton equals PBF in a bodybag....
     
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  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, as I see it Robinson would be the favourite, but at the same time I think it's ludicrous to say Floyd has no chance.
     
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  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Floyd has a chance in any fight from 147lbs down, I just dont see him beating SRR. I also think Hearns would KO him early.

    But I entertain the idea, he is a special fighter. Like Asterion said, he should be compared with fighters from 130lbs (where I think he beats anyone) and 135lbs when doing H2H matchups across eras.
     
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  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    G_Rap I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

    I dont know about SRR opening himself up. In the beggining of fights, he didnt do that. Maybe he did when he was teeing off on somebody.

    Anyways, off to work.
     
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  9. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    speculation thread....it would be a competitive fight though
     
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  10. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    This is an impossible argument to mount. SRR was better than Floyd at everything except defense. And considering the fact that 147 WAS SRR's best weight and Floyd's best weight is around 130-135, you have a fight which I see ending early for Floyd.
     
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  11. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good its all speculation and pointless..you really dont know who would win..
     
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  12. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Where do you people come from?:patsch
     
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  13. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    please explain where im wrong. Are you saying the guys Sugar Ray destroyed were top of the barrel LOL!

    Get real. They were bums. He was just athletically superior, he didnt even have to box with most of him, he just fought.
     
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  14. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    You're not helping yourself out any with this. :lol:
     
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  15. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well atleast others brought good arguments, your just doing alot of jibber jabber. Present an argument or get the **** off the thread.
     
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