Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

Is this flame, or do you really, honestly think that Floyd would beat the Pound-For-Pound greatest boxer who ever lived?

 

Your right, he probably could beat up his corpse today. However, watch this video before you assume that he would beat Robinson, when Robinson was an active fighter...

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yeah i know were you got that from, and i agree and disagree at the same time.whos better wilt chamberlin or doctor j or kobe bryant id say kobe bryant.michael jordan is the best ever.but i get you point, even though i could argue both sides of the fence.

 

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Ooohhhhhh, this is good ****! Keep it up.

 

PBF would be lucky if he lasted the distance against SRR....

 

Uhh... No, that was SRR slugging out Middleweights during the end of his career. Imagine what SRR was like as a Welterweight.

 

The myth that the fighters hit harder now is compelete B.S. Foreman was knocked

down 4 times by fighters from the 70's but not one time by the bigger

stronger fighters of the 90's. Let's not forget Foreman was fat and old

and much easier to hit in the 90's yet not one fighter from the 90's put him

on his ass.

Larry Holmes 7 years out of his prime was almost as good as a Prime Lewis

against Mercer and McCall. Now you can say Lewis was better against

Holyfield and Tyson but he fought the much older versions of both fighters

Where Holmes fought the same versions of McCall and Mercer as Lewis

did.

 

What the heck, I'll be in the minority and say I agree. I think Floyd would defeat SRR. People always says SRR had to much power etc.., but Floyd has just as much power, but its never highlighted. I'm not 100% convinced as I was in the Hatton fight, but I think Floyd would find a way to victory.

 

Well... regarding Foreman, he was bigger when he came back, and he himself said that helped him absorb punishment. He didn't fight wrecklessly like he did in his younger years either, which was an even bigger reason.

I would say that fighters today do hit harder, but only in the heavyweight division. Because the athletes are bigger, faster and stronger today, than they were before. However, if you take a 147 pound man from the past, and a 147 pound man from today... then they aren't any bigger today than they were before. They are both 147 pounds, and there as always been people with great builds that filled out at that weight with the maximum physique. However, at Heavyweight, you have guys like Klitschko who would just be a monster compared to fighters from the past. In the past, the big guys were clumbsy, and without real skill. We are talking about a man who is 6'7" 245 lbs, and has blazing speed, one punch knock out power in both hands, good footwork, great jab, great straight right, great left hook... and can turn a jab over into a left hook.... that is just too much.

 

You're forgetting the real factor here and the reason all of these threads are being made. Floyd has done something that nobody in his era or before has managed to do....he knocked out Ricky Hatton. When you have that on your cv, you better believe he can beat SRR.

 

Its not black and white like that though is it. I agree that in most sports, the speed and intensity increases a lot, but throw into the equation that SRR fought 15 rounders and a lot more regularly, then Floyd fights 12 rounders. He would be nearly, if not as fit as, Floyd believe me. Plus he is simply more talented and skilled.Plus bigger and stronger than PBF. SRR wins this 9 times out of 10 at Welterweight.

 

Well first of all, it is extremely difficult to compare fighters and even other athletes of different eras. Because we would need to find out a formula of hom much faster,stronger,taller, and bigger with todays training methods, and modern medicine. But the way I think they can be compared is to look at each era separately. IN SRR's era he was no doubt the most dominant boxer. ONly Lamotta even stood close to Ray. Not to mention HE FOUGHT EVERYONE.And in his prime he only had 1 loss, which was to lamotta. But ray was a little green. Anyway, Most of his early fights werent even close. He was always the the clear winner. Im not even going to go into depth into his later career. lol.FLoyd on the other hand, is plagued with close fights. Like DLH, and castillo I. And in FLoyd's era, He is the best, but he still hasnt really fought the best competition out there. Now personally I think If SRR came back from the dead and was in his prime, the same as he was back i nthe day, he would beat floyd, but It would be close. Because fast back then, isnt nearly as it is now. SO I would say FLoyd is faster. But there is no doubt in my mind that if srr was born in our modern times, he would annihilate Floyd.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson started out as a lightweight (132lbs at that time) and beat arguably the top lightweight of his era, Sammy Agnott. He went on to beat the best welterweights and middleweights from his era. He even went up to light heavyweight (175lbs) and dominated Joey Maxim (the titleholder at light heavyweight) until he quit from heat exhaustion. From 132lbs to 175lbs is where Robinson's carreer streched. That would be like Floyd Mayweather moving up to super middleweight and dominating Joe Calzaghe. You think Floyd even has a chance to last the distance with Calzaghe. Robinson fought lots of bigger men (who outweighed him by like 15+lbs) his whole career. Even if he was a superior boxer than them, they were still much bigger than him (and he knocked lots of them out).

Robinson knocking out someone like Gene Fullmer, a larger but inferior boxer, would be like Mayweather knocking out someone like Arthur Abraham, a larger but inferior boxer. Somehow I can't see Mayweather knocking out or even beating someone like Abraham. Robinson was a welterweight, that knocked out middleweights. Pound for pound, he was the greatest boxer ever, and pound for pound, he was one of the hardest punchers ever.