Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd would definitely win on the money front. Robinson lived in poverty until his death in 1989. Quite shocking really. :?
     
  2. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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  3. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:nut:nut
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Robinson definitely beats Mayweather at 147. Floyd is a great adjuster, no doubt, but Robinson could adjust as well. His height and reach would be factors and his great jab could keep Floyd at a distance. Mayweather would be competitive, but in a little to deep. I see Robinson's combination punching, his own fast hands, and his great punching power getting him a 117-111 type decision with perhaps a knock down of Mayweather if Robinson catches him in the middle of a combination.
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :good

    Saves me typing that out. I'll make another thread see if the huggers will bite.
     
  6. joe33

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    Going by all this about modern fighters being stronger and hitting harder,we could say then that the east euro heavys of today would smoke ali,foreman and frazier then?,wlad would beat all three of them then, or does this theory of yours only count for american fighters then?
     
  7. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Hear me out for a minute: Floyd might beat SRR, Cotto, and Williams, except HE WONT FIGHT NONE OF EM:nono

    :rofl

    PBF cant carry SRR's jockstrap and hasnt proven anything in the Ring in comparison to Robinson. The TRUTH IS simple. Floyd wont fight the best of his day so he cant match up with those who did! So? He cant BE THE BEST:good

    Floyd thinks his body is breaking down after 39 fights? What do you suppose it was like for SRR at 128-1-2? :lol: Gotta LOVE the Mayweather faithful that just love to talk **** but rarely CONSIDER the impact of the differences in the sport from today. There werent 6 titles per Division and 19 divisons:nono If SRR had been under TODAY'S Circumstances? He'd have WON THE LHW Championship after that point:yep Robinson started out at 135, its possible he wins Championships at 35, 40, 47, 54, 60, 68, and 75! Which would be a 7 weight division Champion who fought THE BEST OPPOSITION. SRR would chew through Floyd's fake ass troubled persona and spit him into pieces.:happy Robinson lost his first fight at 40-0 to Lamotta,2/5/1943, fights California Jackie Wilson 46-5-2 fourteen days later on 2/19/1943, then rematches and beats Lamotta on 2/26/1943!! Would Floyd rematch Cotto if he lost to him in 3 weeks?:huh :lol: Oh and dont forget SRR fought 15 and some 20 round fights:hey

    In fact we dont even NEED SRR, SRL from 80-81 would TKO Floyd just like PBF did to Ricky:yep Just Look at Leonard from 1/11/1979 to 9/16/1981. 15 fights going 14-1 with 10 KO's including Wilfredo Benitez, Roberto Duran Twice, and Thomas Hearns.:huh Too bad Sugar couldnt whip father and SON:rofl SRL TKO'd SR. in 10 rounds on 9/9/78.

    Whats really SAD? Is why a guy like Floyd with such talent, who is in the position to have a very long lasting legacy, would be willing to walk awat from that opportunity and the certain large paydays? It's pathetic, so you cant reasonably argue what Floyd might do against the TRUE GREATs when he wont even fight the better guy's of his OWN ERA.:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
     
  8. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn you use to many smilies and not alot to say. An indentification of a moron

    The reason Robinson fought that many fights is because they were alot of bums in that era. ALOT of bums that would be chased out of the ring with flaming torches like they were the frankenstein monster. And many of them looked like dead corpses the way they fought. Just goes to show how little startegy Robinson had to fight. Fighters today prepare for months watching tape getting in shape to fight 1 hour. Robinson merely showed up and beat any bum they threw in front of em. Thats the difference between today and yesteryears era's. Qauntity no quality. None would qualify as journeymen this day and age. Frankly those werent boxing matches as much as Robinson showing up and fighting, not boxing, fighting. Its easy to look fast and powerful against those bums, he didnt look so hot against Lamotta who Floyd would have dropped if he ever attempted an offbalance right hand lead like he did against Robinson. Show the difference in technical skill between the times.

    I explain how Floyd would beat Robinson, the weakness in his game. The right hand lead that he would catch anytime he left himself open before one of his combinations. Floyds ability to duck and counter a jab.

    IF you wanna argue bring something more to the table. Explain the weakness's in Floyds game Robinson would exploit, just saying he was athetlically superior wont cut it, he wasnt, he was in his day, but the gap has closed in 50 years.

    And how do you know Floyd wont fight Cotto or Williams? Empty speculation.
     
  9. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Was that supposed to be a rebuttal?:lol: :good

    Check it, 128-1-2 in about the same length of time as Floyd's 39-0. Get it through you're HEAD, SRR beat the best and under todays standards wipes up the ring with Floyd in accomplishements and would do the same with GLOVES ON:good

    Floyd? He left names all a long the way, at least he finally cleared up 40. How do we know he wont fight? He's RETIRED or so he says:yep All the talk is he now past prime, just so you have an excuse if eventually reality hits him and he comes back, its rust, its this, its that, ITS BULL****:yep
    Come stronger than the FACTS? Gee..who's the MORON??:lol: :finger

    Spare me you're theory of rationalization about Floyds game and how it stacks UP. THE REAL ATG's left in the ring, BRING IT, DONT SING IT, OR STFU:good

    AT LEAST UNTIL Mayweather proves it against the best of his day and RIGHT NOW? Cotto and Williams are viable, worthy, and profitable opposition. Ellerbe and Team Mayweather can talk what they like but Floyd never did over 375,000 buys PRE DLH and Hatton brought 20,000 cross the pond and how many in PPV?

    I'll respect what a man accomplishes and hey if Floy were to fight those two and look impressive while winning? Who knows maybe the debate changes but proof happens in the ring. Until/Unless he DOES? You can wish in one hand and **** in the other and see which fills up first:good

    Have a smiley day:****
     
  10. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep you just proves your a moron that says **** just to say it. Idiots walk around here like they know **** and dont know anything.Use as many stupid smilies as you want it doesnt mean **** because your argument is frankly ****.

    You bring up Sugar rays record like it would mean anything in this day and age of quality over quantity. Floyd would beat every schmuck in that era just like Sugar ray did. Are you kidding me? Those bums have you actually seen the 75% of guys he fought? Why do you think Jake gave him so much trouble? Because he was one of the only above average fighters Sugar Ray fought. Racking up a load of wins against fighters who wouldnt make a college boxing team doesnt mean anything.

    Seriously if you think Floyds retired you need to get your head out of your ass. He just dominated Hatton and he'll be back to dominate the only talent that could possibly make it close Cotto or Williams. Cotto ducked Floyd and Williams is a new comer, no reason for an established fighter to chase them. He's already proved it against the best. Just because there are more challengers doesnt mean he hasnt beaten the best of the decade already.

    I mean boy are you dumb, you think 175 wins about half against sisters of the poor is meaningful when compared to today when fighters prepare months in advance watching tape, studying fighters to an era when Robinson could just step into a ring a week after a fight and pummel some sap?

    Get a brain dummy.
     
  11. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The premise of this thread is just plain stupid.
     
  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    MY GOD!!

    :rofl

    We've got a LIVE ONE here:lol:

    Dummy? Yep thats YOU in the mirror:good

    Dude seriously you are rying to talk hype conjecture over accomplished reality and anyone who disagrees doesnt know ****. SUCK A FAT ONE sweetie:good

    Quality over quantity did you really just post that? You might have just won DUMBEST POST OF THE YEAR with that late round volley:rofl

    Benitez, Duran Twice, and Hearns is better than Floyd's ENTIRE career:yep

    Then you say **** like in a era where you could just walk up and get a fight? WoW!! You think its easier to go 128-1-2 vs 39-0?:lol: What about the wear and tear:rofl

    STFU CLOWN!! Ease the grip on you're *****, quit staring at Floyd's poster on you're wall, and SAVE IT FOR IF EVER FLOYD BEATS COTTO AND WILLIAMS:good
     
  13. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Your theory sucks. It can only be applied to boxing when you are talking about Heavyweights. Welterweight back then is the same as it is today. Mayweather doesnt hold any groundbreaking advantage because they both would weigh the same.
     
  14. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you just mentioned Leonards record when Im obviously talking about Robinson. Boy what a chump

    Listen, explain Floyds weaknesses, all you've done is talk and you havent made one credible argument in your favor yet. I already broken down what Robinson does wrong,what does Floyd do wrong?

    Seriously if you think the 175 opponents Robinson faced were even on the same playing field as the 39 opponets floyds face you are out of your mind. Im sure Floyd could fight guys with as much boxing ability as nuns week and week out and rack up 100 victores within a span of 5 years, but this is whats changed about the sport of boxing. Quality over quantity. Thats why fighters are fighting less and less because people arent paying to see a guy beat down some schmuck.

    Present a credible argument or get the **** out. Lamotta ate Robinson up with a double off balance left hand lead? You dont think Floyd who has probably the best right hand lead in boxing today wouldnt have similar success? Get the oldtimer Floyd hater dick out your mouth and be objective.
     
  15. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    You're the one with dick in you're mouth:yep

    You wouldnt know credible if it landed like a falling piano on you're head.

    BTW, I said SRL in my first post. You are a good forum laugh talking about SRR fought nobody's and Floyd beat the best.:rofl

    You really are gunning for stupid poster of the year:yikes You're not gonna make it though, there's some idiots been around ALL Year. Maybe next year, you can give em a run for the money. This is some legendary ******ation you're spitting.

    You got no factual back up but you's a genius:hi: